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That's only as long as you have money for a Pixel (and most people don't).
or want a pixel, or want to buy a new phone. the insistence on pixel support only is frustrating.
Graphene doesn't have an advantage over other options if it doesn't get newest security patches so support is mandatory.
I got a refurbished Pixel 7A for $220 just to mess around with GrapheneOS. It’s a very affordable phone.
I've bought used phones since 2013. The most I've ever paid is $150, and that was recently for a Pixel.
You can pickup a Pixel 4 for about $100.
Surely "most people" are paying far more for their phones.
Pixel 4 is past EOL with Graphene (and google)
Genuine question because I've been out of the loop on this. I had a Galaxy S5 that only got one major upgrade from Samsung (4.4 to 5.x I believe) but CyanogenMod and later LineageOS took that thing right up to Android 11.
Why can't the same be done with modern phones today? What changed between that old S5 and the Pixel 4a I ultimately sold for going EOL on GrapheneOS?
Edit: apparently I shouldn't compare apples to oranges without so much as quickly checking support for the Pixel 4a..
The kernel started moving faster, but also the kernel for these devices are orphans. They can never be updated properly because the source code for the kernel modules is not available. The way the phones get updated in ROMs is by back porting changes from the present back to the old orphan. It requires someone super familiar with both kernels to do so. Eventually it becomes untenable. The whole scheme of Android is centered around this source code/orphan kernel scheme. Everything is setup so that hardware manufacturers never have to add their source to the mainline kernel meaning you can never own the device. There is not a single phone or mobile device that you can completely own and running on mainline with available source code. The pixel is all about the TPM chip.
Old second hand Pixels are pretty cheap but they don't receive Graphene updates for very long.
The biggest problem is the scarce availability outside the US.
Or should I say, that the biggest problem is software (OS) compatibility with other devices than the Pixel?
My money is on the latter.
Most people have no problem paying more for an iPhone.
most rich people*
Rich?
So only the half of the US that buys iPhone's is rich?
Or is it they don't know what they're paying because it's part of the monthly bill?
Most of the iPhone users I know are in their 20's and make less than half of what I do... And I'm far from rich.
Yes. A lot of people worldwide are much less rich than that.
The a series is pretty good bang for your buck, if you can't afford that and neither used ones, then maybe you could settle for one of the cheaper Asian ones supported by Divest OS
Exactly - I'm still very happy with my 4a. A used 5, 6 or 7a would be very cheap and very usable.