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[–] [email protected] 38 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

I had someone arguing at me here, with the supreme confidence of the ignorant, that trump and Harris would be the same for Palestineans.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I I genuinely wonder what would change? What's worse than denying and backing the genocide with weapons, soldiers and money under Biden? What worse could Trump do?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The West Bank, where roughly half of Palestineans live was more or less left alone as one of yhr administrations red lines (also, Iran's oil/nuclear facilities.)

With trump incoming, it seems Israel feels they have a green light to expand in the West Bank.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Israel have been aggressively expanding in the West Bank since October 7, and intensified their campaign at around the same time they started the war with Lebanon. There are no red lines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 41 minutes ago

What new settlements happened thete in the last year? You are conflating an increase in tensions and conflict with expansion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Thank god that the Palestinian that got their land stolen and are living like second grade citizen under apartheid are no touch. All thanks to daddy US !. You and I both know the red line is to not bomb their own Israeli settlers, right? They always had the green light... nothing really changed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

I don't think you know what apartheid actually was.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I mean yeah he would be/is, at least until Israel's genocide is over. There is literally nothing Trump can do (at least while beholden to the public and Congress) in this war that Biden hasn't already done.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's the silliest damn thing.

Why do you think Israel announced they were annexing the West Bank right after the election?

Ignorant goddamn children spouting off about global politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

So first, I can't actually find anything about this except Smotrich pushing for annexation so do you have a source that says they're going to go forward with annexation? Now second, Smotrich started yapping about annexing West Bank settlements (not the whole West Bank; if Israel did that they'd have to give Palestinians rights) literally a day or two after the election, meaning he already had plans for something similar before then. You don't just wake up and start taking steps towards annexing an occupied territory that's not how that works.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

You mean, finance minister Smotrich?

And yes, believe it or not, the Israelis were not the only people on Earth who didn't know about the election of their largest ally and presumably gameplanned for either a Harris or trump victory.

The fact Smotrich held back from saying anything until after the election tells you the election mattered in terms of what happens next.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

That is precisely why you had to avoid trump's carte blanche at all costs.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is beholden to the public?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I mean he is to an extent. Everyone is talking like the fascist project in America is finished, but it's not and there's no guarantee they'll be able to complete it. That said it's mostly Congress doing the heavy lifting here; there are enough sane Republicans that Trump wouldn't be able to get away with some of the more outrageous stuff.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I would love to see the list of Republicans in Congress whose districts/states WEREN'T carried by pro-Trump zealots and who WOULDN'T lose their seats if they went against Trump.

Hint: it could fit on an index card, double spaced

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

That's such a waste of card stock. Use a sticky note.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago

I mean there were Republicans opposed to one of his appointments (don't remember who) and you only need four of them to side with the Democrats to get a majority.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

I hope you're right but I won't hold my breath

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Harris/Biden comparison was more valid, although we can't be sure she would stay that path once in office and with pressure from Congress and public. But at least there was a chance of both of those. Anyone who thought Trump wouldn't ramp things up or would listen to calls for change...I don't know what they were thinking. He's never done that, never been like that. His history as a businessman and as a President for four years is right there to review.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 19 hours ago

The thing is that Harris could be moved by progressives winning primaries and the 2026 midterms at the very least. There is almost no hope of something similar for trump.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

I thought those accounts went dormant after the election. Maybe there's still some OpenAI credit left on the controller?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

One of those dumb fucks already responded here.

But Id like to think they're AI instead of just mind numbingly stupid.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 23 hours ago

They are trying to foment division among trump's opposition, the disinfo machines never stop until there is a civil war or collapse.