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Who's the terrorist now?
Hezbollah
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You're saying it was not targeted at combatants, or that there was a lot of collateral damage?
It's explicitly a war crime, whether or not it was "targeted".
https://lieber.westpoint.edu/exploding-pagers-law/
Are those the only requirements you think make something an act of terror?
Which requirements are they missing, that are applicable to the pager attack?
Well let's see, the FBI calls international terrorism "Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups who are inspired by, or associated with, designated foreign terrorist organizations or nations (state-sponsored)." And I'd argue the pagers were state-sponsored, violent, and to my knowledge criminal since killing civilians is typically viewed as criminal.
But I really like how Wikipedia words it:
Do I really need to spell out for you how using an IED to kill whoever happens to be near it when the detonator is pressed fits this definition? If so I'd like to see why you think Oct 7th was a terrorist attack.
Because bystanders were not deliberately targeted by the pager attack. They were collateral. If I launch 20 rockets at a military base and a couple of them go astray and several civilians are killed, that is not a terrorist attack, even if I was aware of the possibility of that happening. Should I have been more careful? Maybe, but that is a different discussion. If I launch those rockets at a marketplace with the intention of killing/terrorizing civilians, that would be a terrorist attack. And that is the difference between the pager attack and Oct 7: intent.
One key note is that Israel is worse at protecting civilians than Hamas is. By their own numbers, the IDF kills more civilians for every enemy soldier they kill than Hamas does. Hamas is actually a far more ethical army, in terms of civilian casualty ratios, than the IDF is.
The harsh truth is that the only reason we call Hamas a "terrorist group" and the IDF "an army" is classism. The IDF kills 10 civilians to destroy one Hamas fighter with a laser-guided bomb? That's just collateral damage. Hamas kills 10 civilians to kill one IDF soldier with a truck bomb? That's terrorism.
The definition of terrorism should be amended:
terrorism (n): violence committed by a group representing one demographic group against a wealthier demographic group.
Which military base did the pagers go off in? This is more like dropping bombs on a school or hospital because you think there are some military personnel inside. Oh wait, they do that too. I can't believe Israel managed to get a bunch of idiots to defend IED's.
The dead and the traumatized thank you for your wise observations: this helped them a lot see how Israel is so benevolent making people explode in their country.
War sucks. Doesn't make it a terrorist attack.
Congratulations on being able to put on two matching socks today. I know it must have been challenging for you, but you persevered!
Two health workers and two children were killed, many from the civilian branch of the governent were injured (which were blatantly categorized as Hizbullah fighters). Even if not a single civilian were killed or hurt, some of these pagers exploded in grocery stores and other public spaces effectively terrorizing and traumatizing the local population.
So yes, it was a terrorist attack. Recently, Israeli occupation in Gaza was added to the list of genocides in wikipedia, this should be added as a list of terrorist attacks in the middle east.
Still, a lot more clinical than having to drop a bomb on each of these Hezbros. So overall very beneficial for the Lebanese civilians
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Very beneficial to them to be traumatized and potentially injured or killed by a nation wide terrorist attack. Enough internet for today.
When the alternative is Hezbollah drawing their country further into war? Trying to stop them yourself would expose yourself and your family to a lot worse... I'd take that Hezbro's balls being blown off at the checkout next to me any day
Hezbollah only exists because of Occupations and invasions by Israel
1982
Israeli Withdrawal
2006
2007 - Present
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/17/beyond-hezbollah-the-history-of-tensions-between-lebanon-and-israel
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Lebanese_conflict
Your copypaste seems to be a tad one-sided there buddy
Do you think Hezbollah restarting hostilities with Israel is benefitting the Lebanese?
Ultimately, the only hope of the Lebanese retaining any kind of country long-term is to violently resist Israeli expansion. All of Lebanon is part of Israel's long-term territorial ambitions. So yes, honestly, violence is necessary to resist Israeli expansion. Israel's plan is that 100 years from now, Lebanon and Jordan will not exist. See Greater Israel.
Remember, these terms are identical:
"God's Chosen People" = Übermensch
"God's Promised Land" = Lebensraum
The Germans in WW2 believed they were a special people chosen by God. This gave them the natural right to take over the lands of racially inferior peoples and to drive the existing inhabitants out through intimidation and violence. The modern Israeli right shares the same beliefs. They are indistinguishable; they just use different marketing.
The muslims think they have a divine right on the territory as well. That's the very reason they didn't accept a two state solution back in 1947.
But of course, once the IDF manages to capture that last Shebaa Farm, they can leverage that baby to [checks you nutcase conspiracy theory] horah their armoured divisions right through Jordan, Syria and Saudi-Arabia all the way into Baghdad unopposed
Hezbollah had to attack them to prevent this from happening
More to the point, it was literally intended to terrorize.
The others!!!
Now?
Good point