this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
1 points (100.0% liked)

Socialism

5184 readers
3 users here now

Rules TBD.

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I wouldn't define socialism as just a period of time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

I'm wondering about how many houses own the state leader that comes out with the quote "houses are not for speculation"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're far out of your depth if you are linking the Wiki article on "Socialism" to a Marxist that is recommending a synopsis on Lenin to you.

If you want something a bit easier to get into than Lenin, I really like the article What is Socialism? It's a quick, 30 minute read. The gist of the article is that Socialism is about what is dominant within a system, in Socialism central planning, public ownership, and the proletariat at large are dominant, while in Capitalism the bourgeoisie, private ownership, and markets are dominant.

In the PRC, the public sector makes up half of the economy and is growing, and Capital is trapped in a bidcage model while markets coalesce into monopolist syndicates, making themselves ripe for public ownership and central planning. The PRC is therefore Socialist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You’re far out of your depth if you are linking the Wiki article on “Socialism” to a Marxist that is recommending a synopsis on Lenin to you.

Read the link, socialism date way before Lenin and it's not a political party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Read the link, everyone knows that. You don't have a grand trump card in the wiki link. We are specifically referring to Marxist Socialism, not the nebulous historical usage of the term, because we are on a Marxist community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We are specifically referring to Marxist Socialism, not the nebulous historical usage of the term, because we are on a Marxist community.

That's a good clarification. I didn't know this is a marxist community it's not specified anywhere

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

The hammer and sickle if nothing else should give it away. You can talk about other forms of Socialism if you want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Socialism isn't a period of time, it's a stage of development. Meanwhile, you're making some claim about how many houses Xi owns, so it's on you to tell us.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Socialism isn’t a period of time, it’s a stage of development.

I encourage you to study more history and not just a specific period of time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I encourage you to take your own advice and actually study instead of skimming wikipedia. You can start by studying the verso link I gave you earlier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The guy linked a Wikipedia article on Socialism after you sent him to Verso Books. The brain is so smooth on that one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Wikipedia is a good source for history. The page on socialism contains the major key events and enough cross links, the history section for example redirects to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_socialism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you can always tell when people get all their political views from wikipedia 😆

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You also can tell when people are biased and don't really know much history

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I see you've made a self referential comment there because it's pretty obvious you are one of those people given prior ignorant statements you've made in this very thread.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

go ahead and point to the ignorant statements

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You linking to wikipedia repeatedly when trying to define socialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You are the one who tried to define socialism and come up with a reductive definition. The wikipedia page on socialism covers the broad aspects of socialism and its history.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

I did not come up with a reductive definition, and I linked you a detailed explanation of what socialism actually is and its relation to communism. You never addressed that, and just continued to spam your wiki link. You're like a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger effect.