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So this is something ive thought about a little bit and never really see it talked about much. Im curious to hear what others here think.

Basically the premise is this. We had the league of nations and that failed. Now we have the UN and while arguably more effective in some ways atleast its still pretty bad at reigning in rogue states like the US and Israel for example.

So thinking about the future how should we change the structure of something like the UN to make it more ideal for a world post-US Empire. Im also curious to hear if you all would even support an organization like this or if you prefer to allow nations to engage in diplomatic talks one on one and not have an international community butting in.

What level of control should a "UN" have, and what mechanisms should it have access to for putting pressure on member nations if any?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

My 2 cents while not a fully formed idea is maybe incorporate international unions in the process. All members must allow workers to join and those unions can organize mass walkouts strikes etc in nations that break international law. Could be an effective way to apply pressure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

What you're suggesting seems to me something akin to the former communist internationale? Why not straight to something that has historical evidence of working, such as the Warsaw pact?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Also im talking about a time period here before we have socialism globally. Like something that could host nations in it that are ideologically opposed like the UN does now but just actually function in its most important jobs like stopping genocides. So not really the internationale either since thats just socialist nations. The Warsaw Pact and Internationale are both like very ideologically pure. Its a lot harder to have an international organization between all nations where they have a lot of disagreements i think.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Warsaw Pact is kinda a different thing isnt it? Its an agreement between specific nations not a worldwide international body.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Thing is, all western powers and their vassal states will be diametrically opposed to it. I don't think there's much possibility for international cooperation of workers in states while there are imperialist powers like the US or Western European states.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Im thinking post WW3 with the US empire collapsed but not a worldwide revoltion yet. There are plenty of non socialist anti imperialiat nations now too.

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