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In the final stretch before Election Day, ballots have been set on fire and damaged in two ballot drop boxes and a Postal Service mailbox in three states. Federal officials have warned that in recent months, some social media users have encouraged sabotage of ballot drop boxes.

Early on Monday morning in Oregon, Portland police responded to a fire they say was started by "an incendiary device" inside a ballot drop box. Oregon's Multnomah County Elections Division said in a statement that three ballots were damaged. "Fire suppressant inside the ballot box protected virtually all ballots," the statement read.

Hours later, another drop box was set on fire in nearby Vancouver, Washington, where officials say "hundreds" of ballots were badly damaged when that box's fire suppression system failed to work.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The really stupid part of this is that it's happening in solidly blue states. People's individual votes won't get counted but it also probably won't change much.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My thinking is this is not an effort to remove ballots, but to generate doubt about the results as well as create a pretext to restrict voting by mail in the future

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

I don't believe they're thinking that abstractly. They know [Blue State] and go there. Maybe a few are smart enough to go to [Swing State] + [Blue Area], but I think it's about affecting the count moreso. It just seems stochastic, so I think the simplest logic is going to be the most common.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Rural Oregon is very red. There's a behind the bastards episode on just how many racists there are in Oregon.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But the state itself is solidly blue and a few ballot box fires are not going to change that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 weeks ago

Before Oregon became a state, it fashioned itself as a whites-only utopia. When it joined the union in 1859, it was then the only state with laws specifically prohibiting certain races from legally living, working, or owning property within its borders.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/oregon-once-legally-barred-black-people-has-the-state-reconciled-its-racist-past

It was started as a white ethnostate. Some people never really got past that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe enough to change a local election

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe, but I'm guessing that's not the goal here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Making people doubt the election’s integrity and fear potential violence for voting is probably the goal.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

You’re using logic, that’s beyond these people