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Puerto Ricans cannot vote in general elections despite being U.S. citizens, but they can exert a powerful influence with relatives on the mainland. Phones across the island of 3.2 million people were ringing minutes after the speaker derided the U.S. territory Sunday night, and they still buzzed Monday.

Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is competing with Trump to win over Puerto Rican communities in Pennsylvania and other swing states. Shortly after stand-up comic Tony Hinchcliffe said that, “I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced he was backing Harris.

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I’ve never understood the whole Puerto Rico situation. Your country was built on the rage of having taxation without representation. Why is it that Puerto Rico isn’t allowed to participate in your elections despite being US citizens?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Because they don't tax them. Puerto Rico doesn't pay federal taxes

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

While they dont pay income taxes to the IRS, they do pay customs taxes, federal commodity taxes, and federal payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare, and Unemployment) to the IRS, which sounds alot like federal taxes to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

It also feels like it's something different because they aren't supposed to go into the general fund, but advance payment for specific benefits

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's really racism. But if you want the legalistic explanation, here it is....

The United States started out with 13 states that were all ex-British territories on the Eastern seaboard of North America. There are now 50 states. Every state after the first 13 got its statehood by first being a territory, adopting a state Constitution at a constitutional convention, and then getting that Constitution approved by US Congress, and so being "admitted to the Union."

Under the Constitution, only states (and Washington DC) participate in the electoral college. The concept of non-state "territory" did not necessarily exist when that part was written, because there were only the original 13, and the Louisiana purchase wasn't done until later.

[Washington DC is a very special "district" that is not a state and not a territory.]

Puerto Rico has stayed at the territory stage since it was acquired in the Spanish-American war (started 1898). Why? Well, mostly racism. There have also been some popular votes in Puerto Rico, with very mixed results. In the currently evenly split political climate, getting any new state admitted is probably impossible (as it was before the civil war).

There's also some undercurrent that maybe the US is kinda uncomfortable holding on to these overseas islands (which are mostly connected to the same Spanish-American war). Philippines became an independent country. On the other hand, Hawaii got statehood in 1959 (but there was a whole racist history there of white colonization).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this is kind of the answer I was looking for. I didn’t really ask the question properly tho. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Because our system is ~~broken af~~ designed and manipulated by powerful rich rascists who don't want to give up control.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 weeks ago

They don't pay federal income tax (but they do pay other federal taxes, like payroll taxes including social security).

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago

Because racism.