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Puerto Ricans cannot vote in general elections despite being U.S. citizens, but they can exert a powerful influence with relatives on the mainland. Phones across the island of 3.2 million people were ringing minutes after the speaker derided the U.S. territory Sunday night, and they still buzzed Monday.

Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris is competing with Trump to win over Puerto Rican communities in Pennsylvania and other swing states. Shortly after stand-up comic Tony Hinchcliffe said that, “I don’t know if you guys know this, but there’s literally a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean right now. I think it’s called Puerto Rico,” Puerto Rican reggaeton superstar Bad Bunny announced he was backing Harris.

After Sunday’s rally, a senior adviser for the Trump campain, Danielle Alvarez, said in a statement that Hinchcliffe’s joke did “not reflect the views of President Trump or the campaign.”

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[–] [email protected] 173 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Because each state is given the power to elect a president, not the voters. Puerto Rico isn’t a state so their voters aren’t represented properly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

What a shit system

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

What happened to “no taxation without representation”..?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of people move to Puerto Rico for tax purposes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago

Never existed in the US. Women, slaves, prisoners, permanent residents, etc... It's always been in the hands of the rich. They just pretend to listen to the people. But as Trump has many times noted, the vote doesn't matter. The state can send delegates with any instructions they want and the federal government can decide state delegates are not valid and exclude them. Most states have laws to follow the vote, but it's not the federal government's job to enforce those laws if they chose not to follow them. That would be for the people of that state to fight later.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Ask some of the 14-17 year olds working their first jobs paying tax without the ability to vote. That was never a real concern for anyone outside landowning whites.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Easy, they don't pay federal taxes

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While they dont pay income taxes to the IRS, they do pay customs taxes, federal commodity taxes, and federal payroll taxes (Social Security, Medicare, and Unemployment) to the IRS, which sounds alot like federal taxes to me.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i mean the technicallity is that washington dc isnt a state either, so the better answer is that you need to live in a region where you have representatives.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Also because DC and PR would most likely vote democrats it makes it harder. Most of the time when a state joined the union there was a fight.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Dc does not have voting representatives in congress. They only get electoral votes because of the 23rd ammendment

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The better question is "why didn't the 23^rd^ grant voting rights to all US citizens in all territories?"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Because of slavery, basically. The US couldn't have a directly-elected president at founding because that would mean slaveholding states would get less power per person actually living there, unless they wanted to let slaves vote which of course they wouldn't. So 3/5ths compromise, electoral college, yadda yadda yadda, and 250 years later power still is filtered through the states. So now that that's the case, giving any new people voting rights would change the power balance between the ~~slaveholders~~ right and ~~abolitionists~~ left. So as a result, places like PR that have an abnormal amount of ~~minorities~~ Democratic voters tend to be unable to get Congress to grant them voting rights.

[–] [email protected] 90 points 2 weeks ago

gonna be honest with you, its racism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

but the context of the news report is about the president, which they can vote for.