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Please let’s keep in mind that health ministry = Palestinian government = hezbollah, so not exactly the most trustworthy source of information. Their endgame is pretty much world outrage against Israel.
Don’t get me wrong, I am disgusted by what that neonazi cunt of a country is doing in Palestine. I have no doubt that Israel is bombing, starving, executing civilians by the thousands. Fuck Israel sideways.
I am as far as it gets from an Israel apologist, but in the interest of intellectual honesty let’s keep that in mind.
Edit: Hamas not hezbollah wtf was I thinking
How unforgivable, manufacturing outrage against a country which is killing innocent people to defend itself!
How are you supposed to defeat a terrorist group without killing innocent people, causing legitimate grievance, and therefore creating more terrorists?
I think you meant to say Hamas, not Hezbollah. That's the government of Gaza. Their endgame is not outrage against Israel. It's no Israel. 'From river to the sea.'
Quote from hadith that can be found in the article 7 of the 1988 Hamas charter:
If destroying the populace of a country is wrong, we might need to do something about Israel.
What are you even implying with this? That it wasn’t Hamas that did 7/10? That it isn’t Hamas that’s in charge of Gaza’s government? What did I say that’s not even worth replying with words?
Someone that confuses two entirely different governments, with two different armies , and two different fucking religions knows nothing about the region and doesn't deserves words in any replies.
Correcting hezbollah/hamas after the fact still indicates your awareness or knowledge of the situation, regardless of any "I don't know what I was thinking" you add in an edit.
Okay for starters Hezbollah is Lebanon's militant group that has nothing to do directly with Hamas & Palestine aside from being loose allies.
More importantly though, Hamas was elected into power in Gaza, they are the local government.
Putting "Hamas run" in front of anything would be like saying "Democratic run USA", it's been overwhelmingly used as a way to discredit Gaza in reporting.
Most international sources have said that the ministry's statistics are accurate, including both the UN and WHO. If anything they actually stated it is underreported because it doesn't include estimates from starvation and inaccessible/lost bodies (ie no confirmation).
And no their endgame isn't world outrage, Israel actually did a pretty good job of preventing that for 70+ years. They're just Palestinians who want their land back after being shoved into an open air prison for existing.
Fuck me I meant hamas obviously sorry for the confusion. All the news are about hezbollah nowadays so I had a brain fart.
With that said- Hamas was elected forever ago and has since abused and brainwashed their population, they don’t represent Palestine any more than Putin represents the Russian people, which is to say the least debatable. Of course it doesn’t help that Israel did absolutely nothing to be hated less.
Hamas=Palestine is what Israel wants you to think. That’s two millions of terrorists over there, what’s the harm in bombing them? Since when are we nice to terrorists? — don’t let your disgust for Israel play you into their hand.
As for their endgame - do you think Hamas did 7/10 in order to have land back? In what world was a massacre of civilians going to give them bargaining power? They baited Israel into behaving like monsters out in the open at the expense of their own population, and Israel bit hook line and sinker. That was Hamas’s objective and it worked.
Good job not addressing the main important point of the post you're responding to, namely the absolute reliability of the Gaza Health Ministries numbers.
You try and throw uncertainty about the death toll by linking the Health Ministry to ...Hezbollah... to try and discredit the numbers. The numbers that basically EVERYONE at this point (except for people who are biased to the point of any unwillingness to believe, you know, fucking reality) accepts as rock solid.
Actually address that point. It's the basis for all of your comments in this thread. The foundation, if you will.
Just people that want their land back that massacred innocent israelis and have stated that they won't stop until the extinction of all Jews.