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What is your voting red line? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This goes to all the peeps who support parliamentary voting as a valid political action.

If your society has been steadily progressing towards fascism for decades regardless of your voting (like the USA has been), is there any point, any action which will convince you that voting ultimately doesn't work?

Is so, what is it? What would your government have to do for you to acknowledge that voting doesn't matter? For many people, it was of course, supporting genocide (which is why so many states desperately try to deny a genocide is ongoing). But if genocide isn't, what is yours?

Eventually a society which has been slowly progressing towards fascism regardless of voting, will become fascist. And we all know what comes after that. There's always one thing where I think even the most hardcore parliamentarian will agree that voting ultimately didn't work: When they're personally being force-marched to the mass grave-sites.

Would that be your point? Or does it come earlier? If so, when?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If someone's going to show up to a climate protest, and because Trump isn't in charge, they can be 99% confident that they won't be shot and killed for it, their life is increased. Sustainably, and probably without externalities.

Not having Trump is by no means victory, but it's an important prerequisite for a lot of progress.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If someone’s going to show up to a climate protest, and because Trump isn’t in charge, they can be 99% confident that they won’t be shot and killed for it, their life is increased. Sustainably, and probably without externalities.

One person is not "everyone"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

I'll be sure to tell that person that, while they're screaming for a medic, who the police are also shooting bullets at while they're trying to get to them.