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Malicious Compliance

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

most hires don't get contracts

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Huh? All jobs come with an employment contract.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You must not be in america. We're lucky if we get breaks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

So if the employer suddenly decides to e.g. start paying you less, how do you prove how much your pay should be?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Someone does some digging and figures it out, and maybe five or so years later you get a check in the mail for an amount the lawyers agreed was correct.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Previous pay stubs I suppose. Depending on the employer you may have something in writing. This typically wouldn't be contract if you're an employee without a union.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Land of the free and all that. Free from paid healthcare, a decent public education, a strong voice in government, an impartial justice system, employee rights... With all this freedom, it's hard to imagine wanting to be anywhere else.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Freedom to treat your employees however you want!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My dude, we're talking about remote work office jobs. Not some random under the table shit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My dude, that's exactly what I'm talking about. That's me in fact.

Even if I had a contract it wouldn't matter as I live in a right to work state, they can fire me at any point without warning or cause.

Having any real employment contract is NOT the norm here.

Non office jobs are more likely to be unionized and this have a contract than office jobs.

That's the type of thing non W2 self employed contractors or union members might have to lean back on, not rank and file full time office employees.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Lol I don't understand. So when you get hired somewhere, you just shake hands and go to a desk and start working? You don't sign any employment contract outlining role responsibilities, compensation, NDA, expectations, background check, bank deposit information, tax information, etc?

I don't believe you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

Title, start date and time, job title is about all that's on the "contract".

Rolls and responsabilities, not anything else, are not defined.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't understand how people can live like this and not consider emigration.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

To where?

Somewhere with a substantial pay reduction that does NOT want me there and likely requires I learn a new language in midlife.

I'm fine, it's not a hellscape here, there are problems everywhere.