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Iran has taken possession of Chinese surface-to-air missile batteries as Tehran rapidly moves to rebuild defensives destroyed by Israel during their recent 12-day conflict, sources have told Middle East Eye.

The deliveries of Chinese surface-to-air missile batteries occurred after a de-facto truce was struck between Iran and Israel on 24 June, an Arab official familiar with the intelligence told MEE.

Another Arab official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive intelligence, said that the US's Arab allies were aware of Tehran's efforts to "back up and reinforce" its air defences and that the White House had been informed of Iran's progress.

The officials did not say how many surface-to-air missiles, or SAMs, Iran had received from China since the end of the fighting. However, one of the Arab officials said that Iran was paying for the SAMs with oil shipments.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (9 children)

These can't shoot down F35, can they?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Nobody really knows what Chinese tech can do because China does not participate in war.

The only thing we really know is that the Pakistani Chinese made fighter jets shot down a bunch of French Rafale jets when India attacked Pakistan recently. Though the Indian Rafale's are fourth generation jets not 5th.

If China sent their top end SAMs then I have no doubt it could shoot down F35's. Though they probably didn't do that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/china-rebuilding-iran-air-defence-hq9b

Iran would actually need airborn early warning and control (AEW&C) to effectively defeat F-35 fighters with anti-air defenses. But if Iran were to deploy a few J-10C that were used by Pakistan, they would at least put an obstacle in acquiring air superiority in Iranian territory, since the jets would not be able to maneuver freely in Iranian territory.

Let's keep in mind that J-10Cs are 4th gen as well. But I think Iran would be able to replace their old fleet with newer J-10Cs as quickly as Pakistan did with their older jets.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If they've already shot down F-35s with inferior/older equipment doesn't that show that they already have the systems capable of effectively defeating F-35s?

The only thing I see in that article is that it wouldn't be as effective as it could be due to their lack of their own fighters and an AEW&C, not that it wouldn't be effective.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No confirmations of downed F35's were made after the war. Several Israeli $30m Hermes 900 drones smaller ones were downed which might have been translated to plane and then misreported as f35's.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US will never admit their F-35 got shot. They alleged a few F-35 fell into the ocean after defensive maneuvers done by a carrier. Note that this happened at least twice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Those were F18A hornets

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yep, they would need both fighters and AEW&C to make AEW&C effective. But if they at least have more modern jets, deploy their anti-air defenses strategically and use radar tricks to hit F-35 then they would be able to tick the scales a bit. But this depends on how much Iranian air forces are used to these tactics and are used to the more modern equipment.

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