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What belief do you have two-sided opinions on? (kbin.melroy.org)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Mine is retail work. Yeah I get it. You hate it. There isn't anything that I hadn't heard before about it by now that hasn't already been said. Yup, people suck.

But on the same token, I don't really appreciate the level people go to, to dissuade people from getting into retail work. Job is a job and income is income. You'll need both of these things. I've learned that a lot of the time, people just happen to be employed by shitty stores that are managed by power-tripping people or maybe the team they work with are annoyingly incompetent.

Yet if you manage to find a store that's worth working in, it's worth it for however long you want to be there for. I chose to work for retail. I don't mind the labor. I don't want a sit-down desk job.

And yeah I work for a big company that has questionable values and has destroyed communities. But that's really out of my control and because that I work for said company, does not necessarily mean that I agree with it or side with the corporate standards. If I wanted to, I'd go back to school and find something else to do.

And that's what I advise people to do if they're so tired of their retail job. Go back to school, it's really all you can do other than go to trade school to get skills and branch into different careers. Just removed about it all day is not going to do a thing. I used to be like that but all it does was just make me hate everything and there were a couple points where I could've gotten fired over it. It's not worth getting fired over something you don't really have an investment in.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

this whole debate comes down to a definition of when a fertilised egg becomes a live human

Why? People dont usually abort things that are dead and if it's not human then there's no need for an abortion. I reject the false equivalency objection that somehow a human embryo is not "human" the same way I reject that a toddler is somehow less human than an adult.

This "live human" stipulation is a pilpul fabrication meant to inject moral ambiguity. This allows abortion to be morally justified as an acceptable practice at least up until some arbitrary stage of development (even though it's clear that pregnancy, barring complication, means a baby is on the way.)

You will never get consensus on your "live human" criteria. That is by design.

I posit instead that the crux of this debate comes down to the sanctity of life and personal responsibility. Calling me cruel for "denying care" is odd considering I'm arguing to prevent the termination of healthy pregnancies conceived with full consent and knowledge of the man and woman involved. A pregnancy isn't a "risk ending badly" it's a blessing and a responsibility (for both woman AND man).

To break it down simply -- babies come from sex. More specifically they come from the product of sucessful egg-sperm fertilization (e.g. the early stage embryo and fetuses that are aborted by the millions each year) This occurs in the womb which is naturally equipped for this process. It's pretty clear what is going on.

Determining termination based on some level of cognizance is an arbitrary standard and frankly one that opens the door for other judgements that are only limited by imagination, rhetoric and charisma.

At what point does this evolve into screening fetuses, altering genomes and treating early human development like some science experiment. Aldous Huxley, a eugenicist, explores this future in his novel Brave New World.