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Wired’s Attack on Privacy (simplex.chat)

submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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SimpleX Chat's response to Wired's article about neo-Nazis moving to its encrypted messaging app.

Edit: manually cross-posted from https://links.hackliberty.org/post/2981854

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[+] [email protected] -10 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The response from SimpleX reads like a naive idea that just because there are Nazis here doesn't make us Nazis.

The Wired article by David Gilbert focusing on neo-Nazis moving to SimpleX Chat following the Telegram's changes in privacy policy is biased and misleading. By cherry-picking information from the report by the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD), Wired fails to mention that SimpleX network design prioritizes privacy in order to protect human rights defenders, journalists, and everyday users who value their privacy — many people feel safer using SimpleX than non-private apps, being protected from strangers contacting them.

Yes, privacy-focused SimpleX network offers encryption and anonymity — that’s the point. To paint this as problematic solely because of who may use such apps misses the broader, critical context.

Like, guy, the Nazis are using that idealistic vision of a shared private world and staining it with bigotry and hatred. If nothing is done, SimpleX is a Nazi network.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Strategic_Dialogue

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Weidenfeld,_Baron_Weidenfeld

A staunch Zionist, Weidenfeld was deeply involved in supporting Israel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I think we can agree that Nazi's are not something we want to assocuate with. Help me understand, what would you do? How would you limit the service to prioritize[s] privacy in order to protect human rights defenders, journalists, and everyday users who value their privacy but then also filter out Nazi's? How would this be different from TOR?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago

You can't. Technology that can be used for human rights can be used for Nazi content. That's just the way the world works. You can't put a back door into it to stop the Nazi content because then the back door will be used by anybody who has access to it and also those who don't. You cannot back door math. Sorry.