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it's close because racism, jeebus, and guns. it seems like it should be more than that, but it isn't. broke uneducated GOP voters literally don't care about anything except for some combination of the above 3 things, because that's what the 1% propaganda machine told them to do
Let's not forget the group that's voting 3rd party due to the situation in Israel. Does it make sense to do, no, but they will do it.
I've tried to discuss it in the ML communities but as soon as you start proving your points with solid facts they just delete everything you said, censored and banned, a bit ironic.
The guns thing. There is a rather large swath of rural, liberal gun owners. If you’ve ever lived in a locale that lacks enough ambient light for you to see your hand in front of your face at night, you get it. If you live in a place where you can hear a car approaching from more than a mile away you get it.
Let my handgun have a normal clip (average 9mm is 15 bullets) and we’re probably golden. And yet. DEMs lose moderate libs on this single issue.
Yes, I own a handgun. Off the shelf with no mods it holds 18 per clip standard and comes with 2 clips.
I generally hear them water down the gun control, like a handgun with a stock number of bullets is generally ok. Or a rifle or shot gun. Unless you have some red flags, which you probably don't have. Even in some of the stricter nations of gun control, there's frequently some path for rural folks to at least have long guns.
It makes a lot of sense for very rural living: you need a defense against the wild, and possibly hunting for food. I fully support that.
The general desire among Democrats is stricter regulation, which is a very reasonable thing. People should be required to prove that they can be a responsible gun owner and are mentally fit to own one. I shouldn't be able to pick one up from the sporting goods store like it's a bag of potato chips. It is an incredibly powerful tool and can easily kill others. It should be treated as such.
i live in the mountains in a town of ~3000. i can drive 30 miles without seeing a traffic light. and i also have a gun
i'm still voting D, because i see that as a boneheaded thing to acquiesce to trump over. though to be fair, there IS NO valid defensible reason to vote for that incompetent pluted bloatocrat rapist coward
Ofc not, and yet this is a single issue that motivates people.
He is a rapist. A coward. A traitor. A cluster B personality disorder. And now he’s fraying around the edges from old age. The stress can’t be helping his decline.
And the Dems will have very little affect (if any) on anyone’s jebus or guns. So it’s really just the racism that’s the distinguishing factor.
and yet the bleating of "they're trying to take yer gunnnnnnns" and "war on christmas/christianity" never ever fucking stops
It’s insane.
And it’s far more likely that if the GOP had total control, they’d institute a national religion (good luck having your flavor picked for that one) and that they’d take away all the guns to protect their power (since there is clearly nothing they’d avoid doing if it meant getting/keeping power).
They'd probably be thrilled to give up their guns if it was GOP taking them.
OMG, you’re right
the gayz in there too 🥴
Gay panic is passe, it's trans panic now.
Gay trans furry fascist communist Muslim atheists. Somehow the paradoxical bogeyman keeps folding in new and contradictory traits.
Israel support...