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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm saying that if you're in favor of strengthening third parties in America a lot of work needs to be done and just shouting vote third party every 4 years is none of that work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

And I'm saying damage control for third parties a lot more work needs to be done than simply saying "3rd party bad, 2 parties good." because idk if you've been watching but we're perilously close to having a 1 party system.

This a prime opportunity to educate voters on their own voting system and people are squandering that to oversimplify their messaging to the degree they sound like republicans.

Edit: To clarify if you wanted to eliminate the republican party, a 3rd party needs to replace it in a 2 party system creating a "catch 22" situation where fptp props up a fascist minority party because 3rd parties can't compete

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Any third-party candidate trying to run for the president is either stupid or acting in bad faith. That's what the meme was pointing out. That's the reality of the situation in America until the work is done to fix the spoiler problem. If someone is competent and actually is acting in good faith, they don't run as a third party in US presidential elections. If their belief is we need stronger third parties, they do that by trying to change the electoral system at a more local level.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

because idk if you’ve been watching but we’re perilously close to having a 1 party system.

THAT IS WHY WE'RE SAYING 3RD PARTY BAD

This is NOT the time. Just shut up about 3rd parties. The debates and discussions are still perfectly valid in 3 months, let's talk about it then.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Now" is the only time to educate people about how the voting system needs to change and the "Less parties more good" mantra is the stupidest shit I've ever seen. The problem has a name and its called the "spoiler effect".

People talk about these issues during political season or they don't talk about them. Quit trying to solve a short term problem with a long term problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

People talk about these issues during political season or they don’t talk about them

...and that's the problem. 3rd party people need to be having this conversation more than once every 4 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you think that's good? wtf