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Don't tell people to stay away from Arch. It is not a god damned meme OS, hell even the Steam Deck production OS is built on Arch.
It's installer is as easy to use as the other shit you recommended if you can fucking read and follow directions, but skips the unnecessary installer UIs that hand-hold (which requires just as much reading and direction following, difference is the others have a toddler-appealing colorful UI).
If old MAGA Boomers can handle text terminal DOS installs with floppy disks, a contepmorary dumbfuck Windows user will be fine too.
The problem with Arch is that it's too minimal for someone who comes with an expectation that everything "just works".
Most people who use computers today started using GUI software as their first contact with computer tech in general. Hand-holding is customer service, some people need to be guided through the process, and having something that looks like it should work even if you don't know what you're doing helps.
On the one hand, take 10 randos who have never seen anything but Windows, and give half an Arch installer, the other half eg. Fedora. Take a guess which half will fare better.
On the other hand, Linux and OSS in general is about choice. Not just your choice, but the choice of "dumbfuck Windows users" as well. If you like Arch, go for it, but most people find it hard to cope with after coming over from commercial interfaces. You do Arch, they do Linux Mint if they feel like it.
That's great, I agree with everything you said.
My problem is with the dude earlier telling people to arbitrarily stay away from specific OSes for no valid reason and state it as an absolute authority of fact.
I used Gentoo for gaming for 2 straight years. I'm not a complete newbie. I'm still not going to recommend Arch or Gentoo for anyone's first distro.
There's a reason most distros come with a set of reasonable defaults. It's so that you're not left wondering "how the fuck do I get wifi working from the command line?" before you're ready to tackle this issue.
Most people also want their computers to just work. They don't want to fiddle around with it to get it just right.
You make a compelling argument why not to use arch in calling windows users dumbfucks and swearing every 3 words in your reply lol
What's wrong with swearing?
And full disclosure, I'm a member of the dumbfuck Windows user group to play my PC games in Steam.
Nothing wrong with swearing in general, but you're using it in a needlessly hostile way
My point is that the arch community in general is very hostile to new and non technical users, I don't think many would disagree
Also, why still use a windows PC? Unless you play valorant, Fortnite etc proton is 99% there imo, haven't had a windows machine in a year or so and I very rarely have any issues
Emphasis mine
Profanity is meant for very strong negative emotion. Using it casually robs it of most of its value.
Lies.
No it's exclusively not; this has to be one of the dumbest takes I've read here.
And you have no authority to tell other people how to think or speak. Go away. Fuck off to your own echo chamber where reading a specific word doesn't hurt your feelings.
I am correct. This has been the case for millennia. You being stupid and ignorant doesn't make me wrong. Once upon a time saying something like "To Hell with you!" was considered blasphemy and could actually get you killed. Plenty of people have been attacked/killed for using a profanity. https://billygraham.org/answer/what-is-blasphemy-is-it-the-same-thing-as-profanity-i-admit-that-once-in-a-while-i-get-upset-and-use-some-cuss-words-i-probably-shouldnt-but-i-dont-really-mean-anything-by-it/
https://noodls.com/language-and-grammar/surprising-truth-is-hell-considered-a-swear-word/
"others may lose their potency through overuse"
"the usage of "hell" in contexts that trivialize or mock its religious implications may be deemed offensive or sacrilegious by devout individuals. "
"Phrases such as "What the hell," "Like hell," and "Hell no" are frequently utilized to underscore strong emotions..."
Proving my point
"its casual usage in everyday speech reflects the evolving landscape of profanity and societal attitudes towards language."
Not as strong now since it has been used so much
I'm not telling anyone how to think or feel. That's a dumbass thing for you to say. I'm explaining, not dictating. Just because your ego is extremely fragile and your mind is obviously incapable of understanding explanations by others doesn't make you right. So to Hell with you, damn asshole.
That's a lot of words for saying "no u".