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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I hate to break it to that guy but packing boxes isn't skilled labor either.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a skill. Just a lower skill, as it's not that hard to learn or become good at it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Yeah and that's what "skilled labor" means. It is about people with higher skills required for their job, skills that are in high demand. There is a huge difference between a doctor, programmer, CAD designer, and a cashier.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

All labour is skilled labour. If you have to be trained how to do something it’s a skill.

You think packing boxes is just putting things in boxes but I’m sure there is more to it, particularly when working for dystopian Amazon where they’re very strict with KPIs.

People called it unskilled labour as a means to pay people less.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All labour is skilled labour. If you have to be trained how to do something it’s a skill.

semantically sure, but im pretty sure the implication is that it's a heavily skill based field, something that you can't just show up and start doing. As the term skilled labor would imply.

Would you consider someone who just learned chess to be a "skilled player" or would you consider someone who has quite the substantial knowledge of chess, and the ability to play very competently a "skilled player"

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I would consider they had different levels of skills. A skill level if you will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Eh. If you can replace someone with practically any able bodied person off the street and a week of training, it's not skilled labor.

Can you technically argue that 1 week of training equates to becoming "skilled"? Sure, but it's a dumb line to draw IMO.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

I think it fits the dictionary definition. Don’t you?

skill /skĭl/

noun

  1. Proficiency, facility, or dexterity that is acquired or developed through training or experience. 

    "painted with great skill."

  2. A developed talent or ability. 

    "improved his writing skills."

  3. An art, trade, or technique, particularly one requiring use of the hands or body. 

    "the skill of glassmaking."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

It's dumb to draw any sort of line.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Given the size of the boxes my Amazon stuff comes in you'd have to be extremely challenged not to be able to get that stuff in there. They're not exactly solving the Knapsack Packing Problem multiple times a day.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

My understanding is some algorithm decides what size box to use for an order, the packer packs that’s box.

The skill comes from the repetition of doing the task to become efficient enough not to be taken out back and put down by Bezos.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If anything, I'd claim that burger flipping requires more skill than item boxing.