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Google Pulls the Plug: The End of Third-Party Cookies and What it Means | TWiT.TV (twit.tv)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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This episode of Security Now covered Google's plan to deprecate third party cookies and the reaction from advertising organizations and websites.

The articles and the opinions of the show hosts are that it may have negative or unintended consequences as rather than relying on Google's proposed ad selection scheme being run on the client side (hiding information from the advertiser), instead they are demanding first party information from the sites regarding their user's identification.

The article predicts that rather than privacy increasing, a majority of websites may demand user registration so they can collect personal details and force user consent to provide that data to advertisers.

What's your opinion of website advertising, privacy, and data collection?

Would you refuse to visit websites that force registration even if the account is free?
What's all the fuss about, you don't care?
Is advertising a necessary evil in fair trade for content?
Would this limit your visiting of websites to only a narrow few you are willing to trade personal details for?
Is this a bad thing for the internet experience as whole, or just another progression of technology?
Is this no different from using any other technology platform that's free (If it's free, you're the product)?
Should website owners just accept a lower revenue model and adapt their business, rather than seeking higher / unfair revenues from privacy invasive practices of the past?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I am not sure if advertising is a necessary evil. I guess I do not like being sold something constantly, and when I am in the market for anything, I will expose myself to advertising willingly, but it is, in way, a matter of consent. I can imagine that there is also people who like being sold things unsolicited, you know, they might say that they like discovering new products through advertisements.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Personally, while I don't mind being advertised to when I'm specifically looking for something, marketing materials aren't particularly useful about informing me whether something will be a good purchase. Marketing is pretty much just a big conflict of interest, where unethical ones will sometimes just outright lie about their product, and even the ethical ones will usually try to avoid talking about the negatives.

Review sites can be ok, but marketers game those, too, so it's hard to tell if a review is genuine or not (though the ones who aren't as good at it don't hide that their descriptions are basically just marketing copy).

Currently, I seek out negative customer reviews. Those can also be gamed, but attention mostly gets put towards the positive ones, so if the negative reviews are mostly about the delivery going badly, stuff that I don't care about, or very over the top about how horrible the product is, they can often be dismissed.

I think that the market is primed for a store that curates their products and is willing to tell shitty manufacturers to fuck off instead of taking kickbacks or ignoring bad products because they get a cut either way. A store whose goal isn't to just sell you something but to do everything they can to ensure you won't buy something you won't like.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think technical information has gotten a lot worse for all kinds of products.

Just look up any smartphone how long do you have to scroll and what submenu do you have to click to get very basic specs.

I recently searched for a good air quality sensor. Which WiFi standard does it support? Does it have batteries? What connector does it have? Do I need a shitty app to setup the WiFi information? Does it have a local API? What buttons does it have?

Technical infos are often impossible to find. You have to buy it to try it out and return it when it doesn't do what you need. Infuriating.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

people who like being sold things unsolicited...discovering new products...

That is a good point, I can definitely understand.

I do not like being sold something constantly

I must agree.

A short version rant about advertising: In my opinion, it causes either mental exhaustion or prevents people from reflecting. It's a constant and invasive distraction, robbing people of peace.

Why? Thinking of all the ways you can't go ten minutes without seeing ads, unless you're intentional. They started putting screens in gas pumps! Billboards on the roads, some that are giant LED screens (which I thought should be illegal), ads all over buildings, buses, in the subway, on the bench.

Back to websites: I personally think in their current form, they're so distracting, they're unreadable. I refuse to visit websites that require registration, and also leave if I can't get the simple/reader mode/ on edge/chrome. At least that way, its forced darkmode, and eliminates all the ads, social media links, everything but words. I can deal with some of the pictures not being shown. I wish I could find a browser that only displays websites in that stripped down mode.