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Au contraire, my Fuck Cars fellow. A sports car's agile handling and peppy acceleration are enjoyable even at street legal speeds. They are of course most enjoyable when driven nearer to the limits at a track, but most stock "sports cars" require some modifications to be reliably driven under such intense conditions.
think, for a moment, about the world you're leaving to the future.
is it really worth peppy acceleration when you KNOW that is wasteful and literally costing your children? Because that's who's gonna pay that bill. Not you or me. Our kids and grandkids.
cars for fun made sense before we understood the actual costs.
these days it just seems gross, you got yours, fuck everyone else.
I'm happy to spend my carbon budget on an occasional Sunday cruise with the top down on a sunny afternoon, rather than overseas holidays, excessive consumption, etc. I don't commute by car, I ride my bike as much as possible, and I advocate for improved public transit infrastructure in my community, which all have a far greater impact than my ~460 kg/year of CO2 from my joyrides.
Isn't the more significant problem that the 98% of motorists who don't give a rat's ass about the driving experience, are effectively forced to drive when they could be taking alternative transport, if the infrastructure supported it?
Please, for the love of God, quadruple the carbon tax and invest it all in public transit, so that cars are treated like the luxury they should be.
I'd say they're equally problematic - but at least their use case is part of their employment, and not part of their entirely optional entertainment.
certainly agree with the last.
And if they're driving to an entertainment event, like say a concert, a vacation, or a park, is that any better than me going for a drive for the sake of going for a pleasure cruise of equal distance? Keep in mind that my sports car is no gas guzzler. It gets the same fuel economy as an average, mid-sized sedan, and better than an average SUV or truck which dominate our roads.
If you're the type that buys their car with the leisure in mind, I'm gonna assume you're not cost constrained and should be doing more to help the env anyway.
hypotheticals are irrelevant so you do you, have a good life, and when you wake up to the damage you're doing / have done, do your best to improve things.
My car is over 20 years old and cost well below the average used car price in North America. I'm not rich, just a car enthusiast.
But I keep an open mind. What other things can I do to help the environment?