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Why did UI's turn from practical to form over function?

E.g. Office 2003 vs Microsoft 365

Office 2003

It's easy to remember where everything is with a toolbar and menu bar, which allows access to any option in one click and hold move.

Microsoft 365

Seriously? Big ribbon and massive padding wasting space, as well as the ribbon being clunky to use.

Why did this happen?

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[–] [email protected] 139 points 1 month ago (44 children)

I’m so tired of neck beards assuming that any spacing in a design is a waste, as if a good design packs every milimeter with stuff. Proper application of negative space is common in art and throughout design.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (10 children)

Almost like Microsoft did a tremendous amount of user research aimed at improving the accessibility of the most commonly used features. I don’t use their products much, but the design has definitely improved over the years and extra padding is a big part of it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I find it’s weird to see this article, as if they just now discovered the effing ribbon ….

I had given up on more compact UIs and bought bigger screens: I can no longer work without at least 2. However lately I’ve been using a lot of large Excel spreadsheets, and am cursing the ribbon again. I need to use the “filter” control a lot, but it only appears on the “Home” ribbon when the Window is a certain size 😡. I don’t even know where it is the rest of the time, but it seems like whenever I want to filter a lot of data I need to start by adjusting window size until the filter controls appear.

Yay for “usability”, instead of a compact UI where things can be found in predictable menu locations regardless of window size

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know you can customize the ribbon entirely, right? Make it your own and put your most used features in there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then how will I find new features? How will I use other computers? I just want the functionality organized in some predictable way and leave me some place to work in. I want my work to be the focus, not some designer on peyote’s idea of a good time. And I want to be able to do it on any computer I happen to use

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just want the functionality organized in some predictable way and leave me some place to work in

Then customize it. If you're using Office, it should even be transferred between devices. This is exactly why you can customize it: so you can make your type of work your focus.

I'm not here to defend MS or anything, but I can't help pointing out the answer right in front of you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the cloud dependency required to edit a local file, or the added delay of customizing every time I use a different computer

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

How often are you doing work on another computer? You probably have like 1-3 you use on any regular basis, just set them up and forget it.

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