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I don't understand the appeal of "multipolarity" (lemmygrad.ml)

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Personally, I fail to see why many Marxist-Leninists support multipolarity. The primary goal of the Leninist movements has always been "workers of the world unite!" and not "non-US-aligned countries unite!".

To be clear, in saying this, I am not endorsing US-led unipolarity. I am just saying that multipolarity is not inherently good as some MLs suggest. For example, the world in 1914 and 1939 were without a doubt multipolar, and those both resulted in brutal world wars which killed millions.

Could somebody explain why people support multipolarity so much?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I feel like this question can only come from someone in the imperial core. The global south wants multipolarity because we want to be the masters of our own destiny and not subjects of the US, we want to establish relations of mutual prosperity not of tribute.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I feel like this question can only come from someone in the imperial core.

I am trying to understand this question as a Marxist through a Marxist lens. Marxism has the same answers to questions regardless of where you are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But Marxism is decolonial and multi-polarity is essentially decolonization by another name.

In a multipolar world without imperialism the different states will mostly naturally move towards socialism. In a multipolar world where there are some capitalist states living peacefully alongside socialist states, the capitalist states will eventually have to become socialist out of efficiency because they ironically won't be able to compete with a developed socialist state. Since military intervention at the scale it exists now won't exist, by definition of a multipolar world, then their only competition will be economic and capitalism is a very inefficient system in some ways compared to socialism. So, it will happen much more naturally with probably few exceptions.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

different states will mostly naturally move towards socialism.

No offense, but this sounds very similar to the notion of "peaceful transition to socialism" advocated by Khrushchev. Socialism is done through revolutionary violence (a universal law), not peaceful growth.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

Socialism as it stands is almost always done through violence, yes. But that's primarily due to circumstances outside of anyone's control, I.E. surrounded by imperialist/capitalist powers in a hypercapitalist world.

Theoretically, in a world with no imperialist superpowers, there would be less of a threat for countries to become socialist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Well, I never said it would be peaceful. Haha

But imperialism wouldn't exist to enforce its will militarily. I do believe that isolated capitalist states wouldn't be able to prevent socialism, with few exceptions. They prevent socialism through a unipolar domination of power.