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You do. You said Dems are not entitled Leftist votes, but then said Leftists are helping Trump by voting for Cruz. By your logic, Libertarians and Non-Voters are also helping Trump. It's nonsense.
Depends on where they lost their votes from.
Because refusing to support the genocidal system is a good thing. Kamala and Trump are united on Gaza, voting for either will only result in more death and destruction.
Revolution will come regardless. An increase in votes for Socialist candidates shows the public the strength Socialists are building and presents an alternative.
Whomever they think is the bigger evil, they help by not voting for the lesser evil. For why, see my first comment.
Disagree.
And voting for neither will also result in more death and destruction. You are refusing to explain how your choice would help, and I can make some damning assumptions why.
The Democrats and Republicans are both 99% Hitler, ergo voting for either is voting for the greater evil.
If the Democrats lose left wing voters by pushing rightward and lose, are they going to go even further right?
I am not refusing. By rejecting both genocidal parties, and showing support for anti-genocide parties, the Democrats may shift leftward to regain lost votes. Unconditionally supporting the Democrats only furthers their genocidal tendencies.
Additionally, increasing support for Third Parties shows voters an alternative to genocide.
If you are a woman, POC or queer, it is usually really easy to choose a lesser evil here (or idk, a neo-nazi, as I framed this as why a non-voter might also help the democrats). Most people can choose a lesser evil, and they help the greater one by not voting/voting 3rd party. If you literally can't see a difference, that's fine, but this is the reason why most people are better of not voting 3rd party right now.
Yup, they can make that decision. Maybe they think appealing to the block of Republicans is easier, and I wouldn't be surprised if they do considering that's where their money is and how much they need to change to appeal to the left.
So, you don't know how it would help. Either the Democrats stay in Power and won't change, or the Republicans gain power and nothing will change until 2028 (or later, depending how project 2025 comes along). Hoping that they may change on Palestine is foolish. You are correct about the support, it should never be unconditional.
I'm queer, so is my partner. I'm also a Communist. Trump hates me openly, sure, and Kamala does nothing to stop it.
Then we know American electoralism doesn't matter anyways and we need a revolution.
I already told you, you're just ignoring it.
Since you said support shouldn't be unconditional, where's your line in the sand? Genocide apparently is fine for you.
As implied in my first comment, I'm luckily not a US citizen. So asking where my line would be is a bit weird.
But when there is a better option with any chance of winning, they would have my vote. But since the Palestinian Genocide is happening either way I'd vote this election, Dems it is to reduce the suffering inside the USA. Support is, to me, something different, and I don't think I would support the dems right now.
As a US citizen, the DNC and GOP ultimately serve the same donors and are aligned.