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Stephen Miller, Trump advisor, absolutely loses his mind when journalist José María Del Pino asks him where he gets his information about Venezuela's supposed low crimes rates.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Copying my comment from another thread:

The right is very good at picking a name and holding it up to "win". They do this because they can't deal with statistics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's also a tactic of bullshitters to say a whole bunch of stuff in series, just put something out there and quickly move on to the next thing, making it sound like they have a lot of substance but hoping the quick change doesn't give anyone much of a chance to pull on any of the threads of what they said or look close enough to realize that there is little to no substance behind any of it.

Ancient Aliens and Alex Jones both also use that.

And it's a pain in the ass to unravel because people who don't want to look more closely and just want to believe think there's a list of things that need to be disproven if you wait and let the speaker finish or don't question him about it directly because the believers don't feel like they have the expertise to rebut counterpoints (so shelve them instead of discarding) and instead just want to go down the list. Which is fair, though it would be nice if they applied that same skepticism to that list of points in the first place.

But this seems like an effective counter for that strategy. Just pick an item on the list that doesn't sound right and keep pulling on that thread with the person that said it on the first place rather than the disciples blindly following. Then they'll see it's not just their lack of expertise getting in the way of arguing back against counterpoints, it's the whole thing lacking any real substance at all.