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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Army don't kill people, bad people with armies kill people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Like, I do get you're trying to make a joke, but this is actually true in my opinion? Especially enlisted service members. It's literally a crime for them to not do what they're told, and what they're told to do often is murder people. Officers have a lot more control but they're also required to follow orders. The people ultimately in charge are politicians, and I'd say most of the ones sending armies to war are bad people.

Inb4 someone says "why join up then?":

  1. Conscription exists.
  2. It's often the only choice to lift yourself and family* out of poverty for some people.
  3. In the US they literally have army recruiters in high schools. 🤢
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know how widespread this is, but in the german army it is illegal to follow an order if you think it violates human rights. They specifically wanted to make a law against the "I was just following orders" excuse, you're still guilty.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

It doesn’t prevent them from attracting a lot of neonazi’s and giving minimal (to no) punishment to said neonazi’s. It also hasn’t prevented then from committing war crimes in Afghanistan.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprise if it were only Germany, due to the whole cultural guilt around WWII...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

You're right, it was suppose to be a satire. But it's never one man...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FUCKING HIGH SCHOOLS?? Those kids can't even pee without permission, yet somehow they are considered adult enough to be sent into the Middle East to kill people???????

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So thankful I didn't grow up there, I can't even imagine dealing with that on top of all the other high school angst.

Edit: I should say, you do have to be 18 to serve. But it's still indoctrinating kids into thinking that's all they'll be able to do to survive...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure firing squads for traitors and deserters exists.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Generals gathered in their masses