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New Mexico is seeking an injunction to permanently block Snap from practices allegedly harming kids. That includes a halt on advertising Snapchat as "more private" or "less permanent" due to the alleged "core design problem" and "inherent danger" of Snap's disappearing messages. The state's complaint noted that the FBI has said that "Snapchat is the preferred app by criminals because its design features provide a false sense of security to the victim that their photos will disappear and not be screenshotted."

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (32 children)

I mean, that part isn't really at issue here. It's fundamentally the same technique that's been used since the 90's, famously on To Catch a Predator. Seemingly, the "entrapment" angle has been settled.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (31 children)

But now they can argue that they aren’t sexually attracted to children, just AI artwork, which is technically not an image of a child. And unless I missed it, they were not trying to meet the girl.

The problem is going to be that images that aren’t real of a crime aren’t a crime. Of the opposite was true, images of murder would be illegal. Can’t just cherry pick.

If I draw a stick figure and label it “naked girl,” does it become child porn? What if I’m a really good artist?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (24 children)

I believe that cartoon images depicting sex of underage kids is still illegal. At least in the US.

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong but seems like I remember this from a news article a while back. Maybe it was just a specific state.

I am not going to Google that one though to find out though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think the bar is whether it could be reasonably mistaken for a real child. Which makes quite a lot of disgusting content legal.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I also find it to be repugnant, but if the images are not based on real people and the ai was not trained on real csam(good luck proving this either way), then it shouldn't be illegal. The laws were made to protect kids, and drawings of purly fictional characters are not hurting the kids.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty much every law ever made in the history of humanity that was ostensibly to protect children is actually about control of the population.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is just plain wrong.

Obviously, there are loads of laws and very good legislation that does indeed protect children.

Just one example: child labour laws.

I suspect that what you really mean is that whenever a politician says whatever police powers are required to protect children, they really just want more power to violate privacy to make it easier to prosecute various crimes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exception that proves the rule.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about child support paid by parents who are separated?

What about welfare laws ensuring a minimum standard of care for children?

What about social security for families?

What about minimum age of consent?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What about this one particular gain of sand I found that's blue? Look, here's another and another. Clearly, all sand is blue and beaches are blue. Don't argue, or I'll show you the 6 grains of sand I found.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a silly thing to say.

You've made an assertion, I've provided examples to the contrary, and the best you've got is a grain of sand metaphor?

Obviously, it depends how many laws purported to protect children actually do. The examples I've provided form the bedrock of the modern family structure. They're not insignificant grains of sand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm not going to do a survey of every law in human history to satisfy your autistic contrarianism. I'm just gonna make fun of you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You can make fun if me all you like. This far you're not doing very well.

You don't need to survey every law in human history, you just need to support your assertion, which you seem completely unable to do.

We all say silly things from time to time. Obviously you've just parroted something you heard somewhere else and didn't really think it through. Most people can just own their mistakes. Only idiots double down, and cowards start ranting about sand.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or, I can recognize when it's not worth it to get involved with a sealion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Imagine being so fragile you have to fool yourself that you're right about everything and all arguments to the contrary are bad faith. Pathetic.

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