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[+] [email protected] -12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

maybe he is the teacher?

wait, is he mansplaining how to become a mansplainer to women? did I get the joke?

or is he about to get his mansplaining degree?

there is no joke, is there?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see your kind with the "there is no joke" nonsense occassionally, and I never know if you're wilfully obtuse because you don't like this humor, or really don't even understand how it could be funny.

I'll tell you it's kinda funny.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

thanks for your answer.

I don't think it's funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

but i often have problems with illogical jokes, and other people don't seem to care.

Obtuse? how shallow and pedantic.

maybe it is like a meta joke, that makes fun of women complaining about mansplaining in settings where it has to be expected?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's funny, because the joke is illogical. If he is a teacher in a University, and it looks like it, that it is his job to mansplain.

So close. You seem to have Sheldon levels of understanding sarcasm.

It's just a simple joke about the term being misapplied to an everyday setting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i am autistic, i mean, for real. so I often trip over jokes, its far less than in childhood, but still...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Haha, I get it, it's totally fine!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

thanks, i appreciate it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'll bite. The joke is funny because it is this kind of joke that comes from a place of desperation about our current world and how unfair it is and twists it sarcastically.

There are power imbalances and sexist tropes pervading all of our interactions, men mansplaining stuff are everywhere. Men get believed more often and and people associate more authority with them. Also, men see other men as subjects that they can compete or bond with, but see women largely as objects that they want to possess and control. This is the patriarchy and the setting for our little joke here.

And in the light of all this sexism, it seems so frustrating to see an university running ads with obviously sexist tropes of one guy explaining stuff to all women around him. It doesn't matter how anyone of these people identifies for our joke, because the message stays the same.

Saying "oh look you can do a master's in mansplaining now" is funny because it desperately goes for any other explanation that the real reason for this ad is, namely sexism. "This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?" It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

I guess people who don't experience a certain discrimination or who are not open to reflect upon it, won't find this joke funny. Because without the pain and the comedic relief, this wouldn't be funny. For a deeper explanation of this, see this fabulous video by contrapoints on exactly this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtj7LDYaufM

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

“This must be a course on mansplaining, why would they show this otherwise?” It is a way to deal with how fucked up this world is by sarcastically twisting it so that it gives a seemingly delusional alternative answer.

yeah, that's what you believe people are thinking.

I guess you are a woman. i am a man. so i am mansplaining this to you: you don't know how men see other men. and you have no right to assume you know. stop doing that, it's exhausting.

And apparently, this is not a joke at all, since what you want to achieve is coping with your insecurities, via condensation thinley veiled as sarcasm.

so the whole thing backfired, and resulted into you having to explain me how i should react.

stop doing that sort of thing, it is manipulation.

so, no wonder the whole thing did not make sense at all.

Disclaimer:

I was joking .-)

i get it after your explanation, I am onboard, it is a really well thought out piece of art, i love how it changes my male ineptitude for the better.

Thanks for the explanation, you were a good catch!

take care .-)

nimms mir nich übel, ich hab dich gefoppt, alles gut, du bist bestimmt ganz cool.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Joke's on you, I'm actually a trans woman and have experienced going through the world as a man lol

P.S. deine Antwort erscheint mir so widersprüchlich, dass ich wirklich keimen blassen Schimmer hab, was du eigentlich Aussagen wolltest...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

scheise, wieder reingefallen. bin autistisch und stehe auf logik, das ist alles. ich hab spaß am diskutieren, und ich wollte auf keinen fall deine gefühle und überzeugeungen verlrtzen

moment ma

du bist en kerl. hör bloß auf mit deinem patriarch gelaber, das ist ja opferumkehr oder sowas. naja, ich weiß nich, was es ist, aber irgendwas schlimmes hast du bestimmt angestellt. zumindest als du noch ein kerl warst, hast du männer und frauen als objekte gesehen und alles das. zum glück hast du deine fehler eingesehen und bist ne frau geworden. ne andere lösung für das dilemma scheints nämlich nicht zugeben, da toxische männlichkeit angebohrt, ist und nie weggeht und so.

k hau rein, danke daß du mir den witz erklärt hast, hab auch gelacht, war nett von dir, daß du dir die zeit genommen hast.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Äh, nee ich bin kein Kerl und war es auch nie. Aber ich habe als trans Frau trotzdem Erfahrungen, wie es ist, als Mann gesehen zu werden. Und natürlich objektifizieren wir alle mal andere Menschen, genauso wie wir ja auch seit klein auf rassistische, sexistische und andere diskriminierende Scheiße gefüttert werden. Niemand wird damit geboren, sondern wir werden so erzogen. Cis Männer sind genauso Menschen wie alle anderen, sie werden aber von Grund auf anders erzogen. Und natürlich hab ich auch schon in meinem Leben Scheiße gebaut, wie alle Menschen sich mal daneben benehmen. Du scheinst hier so ein schwarz-weiß Denken draus machen zu wollen, dass Männer sich scheiße verhalten und Frauen eben nicht. Das stimmt aber definitiv nicht und darum geht es nicht. Der Punkt ist, dass nicht als schon festgeschrieben zu sehen, sondern eben das zu reflektieren und darüber hinaus zu wachsen. Und nein, ich bin keine "Frau geworden", weil ich da raus wollte, ich bin halt trans. So wie ich halt auch autistisch bin. Und auch cis Männer können was gegen ihre antrainierten Denkmuster angehen. Tun sie halt nur in der Regel nicht. Ich feier jeden Menschen, der seine Männlichkeit verrät und sich selbst reflektiert.

Und ja, ich stehe auch auf Logik und liebe diskutieren :)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ich hasse jeden menschen, der Männlichkeit dämonisiert.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah ja, schade, du hast wohl wirklich gar nichts gerafft leider... Naja, ich hoffe du versuchst weiter, daran zu arbeiten und irgendwann daraus auszubrechen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

ich ziehe es vor, meinen geschlechtgenossen nicht vorzuschreiben, was sie zu tun, zu lassen, und zu denken haben. außerdem erfreche ich mich nicht, mir einzubilden, daß ich wüßte, was frauen denken, und was sie motiviert.

eins, was ich im meinem leben gelernt habe, ist nein zu sagen, wenn jemand versucht, mich zu dominieren.

und deswegen kannst du tun und lassen wie es dir beliebt, es ist mir wumpe, solange du mich und meine identität aus dem spiel lässt.