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This is apparently in Columbus, Ohio -- a pretty major city by any stretch of the imagination.

And yet there are people who rail (geddit?) against 15-minute cities and efficient public transit that ensures no one ever gets stuck like this.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (23 children)

You can call literally call anyone you know we all have cars here. If you don't know anyone at all you can taxi or Uber. In smaller towns you may even be able to call the police non emergency number and get help from a community officer type employee who has a car and does minor non police related stuff. Many many many things would have to fail before you need to ask a stranger and even in that case you would be hard pressed to not find help within the first couple people you ask.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (14 children)

My point is that this entire situation is a massive systemic failure. You shouldn't have to find yourself in a situation where your car breaking down means you're stuck at the grocery store with no way to get home unless someone deigns to come and get you -- hell, you shouldn't even need to drive to get groceries, any well-designed city would have multiple grocery stores within a few blocks regardless of where you live, and a dense public transit network and/or cycling infrastructure so you can get to the ones that are farther away.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I think it is underappreciated how large the North American continent is with highly concentrated big cities, with vast portions of the land outside of larger cities without public transportation. This includes CA/US/MX as a general comment and not specifically this screenshot in question.

One may have "good" transit in Calgary, Edmonton and Red Deer but what about all those large spaces in between? It's 1.5hrs driving from Calgary To Red Deer with many 10k person cities in the middle, etc. These villages do not have transit systems - cars are how North Americans travel when outside of larger cities. It's why EV (lack of) range is a huge (non)selling point for some people depending where they live.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

No, it isn't underappreciated. It is severely overappreciated -- i.e., it's a bullshit excuse that's been debunked over and over again.

FYI, misinformation and bad-faith rhetoric, including whataboutism, is uncivil and violates rule 1 of this community.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

with vast portions of the land outside of larger cities without public transportation

I mean, yeah? That's the OP's point? That too much for North America consists of poorly-designed car-centric urban planning.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

not everyone wants to live in cities

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

and they will use cars to get to the city to get things from store that are not available locally, like home depots and wall arts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ok? And the relevance of that small minority to either the principles of good urban design, or to the story in the OP is?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

a logical reason why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

There are lots of logical reasons why someone would take a car to a supermarket in a city. Even in a well-designed city many people will choose to do it.

The lady in this story got stranded when her car broke down after she drove it to the store. That should not happen. She should have alternative options.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah? That’s the OP’s point? That too much for North America consists of poorly-designed car-centric urban planning.

Talk to me about the public transit options - besides the one bus that runs from Kalgoorlie to Esperance - in Norseman, WA.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I'm not sure what you mean. I didn't hold out Australia as some bastion of urbanism. I simply reinforced OP's point that North America is bad.

Australia is also terrible at this. It just wasn't relevant to mention.

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