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[–] [email protected] 138 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (58 children)

Was watching some history video about deleted religious texts the other day and it mentioned that some ancient scrolls that may have been part of the dead sea scrolls suggests that Judas was instructed by Jesus to betray him. Which makes sense in the context of the story and its religious implications because Jesus could not be the savior of humanity if he wasn't crucified.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Which makes sense in the context of the story and its religious implications because Jesus could not be the savior of humanity if he wasn’t crucified.

In what way does the last part make sense? Just asking because it only really does if you buy the whole inherited sin idea and the idea that sins can somehow be transferred to another and the idea that death somehow absolves someone of their sins even without the eternal punishment part that comes after in the rest of the belief system. The term fractally wrong comes to mind, no matter how many of the ideas you exclude from scrutiny and treat as a given, the rest still doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The inherited sin thing is kinda the whole point of Christianity isnt it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, the whole foundation of Christianity is built on a moral framework that doesn't make sense in our modern moral understanding, not even in the one today's most conservative Christians apply to literally every other moral question.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago

For one, it was part of the prophecy that's referenced a few times in the New Testament.

For two, martyrs maker good PR. My favorite example is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignatius_of_Antioch

Who near as I can tell arranged his own arrest and execution in Rome, and preached the entire way there to the crowds that came to see a Christian (novel in those days)

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