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Just came across this new rule, via this article: https://www.sfchronicle.com/climate/article/california-electric-19563602.php

2027 is when they ban sale of new replacement gas water heaters.

They talk about a few solutions, like low voltage electric heaters, and load sharing plugs to share a dryer plug among the water heater and a electric dryer. So that could do it for a lot of people.
But I'd guess a surge in panel replacements will happen within the next 2 years.
Especially since new gas furnaces will be banned in 2029.

Also, obligatory Fuck PGE. We have higher rates than most of the rest of the world and it's all the fault of the corrupt PUC and PGE.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

So what happens when you guys get blackouts every summer?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I used to lose power multiple times a year but now that I moved to CA I think it’s happened once in like 10 years and they had it back on before I woke up. But I have municipal power so I don’t have to put up with PGE’s incompetence.

Also have an electric water heater. Works great so far though the noise was a bit surprising at first. The old one kept having the pilot go out so for me it’s more reliable, and was basically free with rebates. Probably will switch to electric heat soon, that’s the last gas hookup let in my house. Would love to completely sever ties with PGE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

California has not had summer blackouts in 20 years since Enron and other Texas energy companies did a criminal conspiracy to idle power plants and drive the price through the roof.

Texas still has summer and winter blackouts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those are local outages due to trees causing downed lines, squirrels getting into transformers, motor vehicle accidents, etc. They aren't the same as the blackouts like you get from an overloaded or strained power grid like they have in Texas.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You know what? If you believe that, you can continue believing it. Don't need any more.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, keep believing what you experienced for 20 years actually happened

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago

Modern gas water heaters already have electronic ignition systems