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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh look how awesome windows 11 is going! Let me drag this Linux factoid onto my edge presentation, no I mean my power point that I have running on edge. I mean the edge in this teams running power point from this remote desktop running on edge thru a teams behind a VPN under an edge running power point running edge in teams running.....10 years later.....fuck this shit! I'm running Linux!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I suggest Manjaro. Debian's always 5 versions behind, and Ubuntu's 'selling security' - Fedora's good though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux

for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.

Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.

the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.

But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros

If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite

If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos

If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I may switch over to fedora, I needed something non-debian with XFCE.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Make sure to go immutable so you never have to do maintenance. The atomic spins are fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

If they are into gaming, Nobara is basically the best, no headache choice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh shit....https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Debian-based_distributions

I didn't think there would be so many. I've used knopix many times before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I use Ubuntu already on all my installs except for the kid's computer which looks like a virus made windows and then installed over another virus, and the wife's PC.

Do you think that I could successfully win them over to Linux?

But yeah I'm thinking to move out of Ubuntu but I want debian or compatible. I want a simple Linux that does all my usual Linux stuff. Lots of people recommend Arch.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lots of people recommend Arch

Arch really is a hands-on distro. Installing it can feel like an accomplishment and a learning experience, but particularly when you have other people using the system, you might be better off with a less hands-on distro like manjaro (which is based on arch) or mint (based on ubuntu).

Mind you, even when using manjaro, you are legally not allowed to say "I use Arch, btw".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I highly recommend avoiding manjaro like the plague, their team is incredibly incompetent (see: https://manjarno.pages.dev/ ), I say this as someone who has given people manjaro for years and regretted it, I was also their it person, manjaro regularly broke every few months and gave people a very bad taste of linux

for example, why are kernels given version numbers in packages? This caused 3 separate peoples computers to break multiple times. Everything good about manjaro comes from arch, everything bad about manjaro comes from the manjaro team.

Y’know how it’s not rolling release because they delay packages by 2 weeks? They actually do no testing in this time. How do I know this? They pushed an update that caused steam to uninstall your desktop environment. Famously covered by linus tech tips… this is something that should have easily been caught, and yet the two week window did absolutely nothing.

the truth is for manjaro there is no real usecase, there’s no set of desires that align with manjaro being the best choice for you. I am not asking you to switch away from manjaro, but I do not think we should ever recommend it to anyone, and on your next machine, I recommend trying the arch installer.

But if what you’re looking for is an easy pre-setup arch, use endeavoros

If you want something simple and up to date, use fedora kinoite

If you’re a power user and want to configure every little thing about their system, use arch or nixos

If you don’t care at all about updates and want the most rock solid system possible, debian.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just say that you enjoy edging, we don't judge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is that when you come closer and closer but you never come?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

come closer, and maybe i'll tell you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Don't pretend you don't know the definition after repeating edge so many times