this post was submitted on 11 Feb 2024
797 points (99.3% liked)

Lemmy Shitpost

26740 readers
3884 users here now

Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content.

Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means:

-No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...

If you see content that is a breach of the rules, please flag and report the comment and a moderator will take action where they can.


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Memes

2.Lemmy Review

3.Mildly Infuriating

4.Lemmy Be Wholesome

5.No Stupid Questions

6.You Should Know

7.Comedy Heaven

8.Credible Defense

9.Ten Forward

10.LinuxMemes (Linux themed memes)


Reach out to

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules. Striker

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Image is captioned: "The dinosaurs didn't "rule the Earth", they were just alive. Stop giving them credit for administrative skills they almost certainly did not have."

Image is an artist’s rendition of dinosaurs in a prehistoric scene

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Hey man, we call senators and congressmen The Government, and they don't do shit...

Also humans. When it comes to resources we are trash administrators. We optimize for money instead of efficiency or any other useful characteristic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We optimize for money instead of efficiency

The cheapest thing is the most efficient thing by definition, if you eliminate externalities and other market failures and think in the long term.

The trouble is, we don't do those things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're talking product manufacturing. I'm talking large scale planetary resource allocation. Broadly we allocate the most resources to people who can make the most money with then rather than people who can serve/help the most people or create the most benefit.

If one guy says, "with all this delicious island water, I can sell it overseas and make lots of money to put mostly in the pockets of 3-5 individuals", and the other guy says, "I can sell it and use that money to keep everyone on the island well fed and healthy, and save them all the time they would spend working for someone else to instead invent or research things that help all humans," we all know who gets the seed money to start the new business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No, I'm talking about large scale planetary resource allocation too. Your own example proves my point:

If one guy says, “with all this delicious island water, I can sell it overseas and make lots of money to put mostly in the pockets of 3-5 individuals”, and the other guy says, “I can sell it and use that money to keep everyone on the island well fed and healthy, and save them all the time they would spend working for someone else to instead invent or research things that help all humans,” we all know who gets the seed money to start the new business.

The only thing that makes the first guy's plan viable is if he isn't made to pay for the externalized costs of taking away the island's water. So don't let him fucking get away with that, obviously!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What if the profits far outweigh those shipping costs in all cases?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

I think I figured out the mismatch here. I believe you're suggesting that the purpose of resources is to produce money, and the most efficient way to do that is to do as cheaply as possible. Not at all wrong.

I'm saying though that the least efficient purpose human beings can have for Earth's limited resources is changing them into money. Instead it strikes me as more efficient (in terms of largest net benefit where leaving then in the ground provides little benefit, and is therefore less efficient), to use resources for the purpose of extending all human lives, and the quality of those lives, so that each resource enables the largest number of humans possible to be able to have the highest chance of producing yet more benefits for humanity and the world.

Put differently, generation of wealth to be mostly stored for only a handful of people is a poor use of resources. Instead, as much wealth as possible should be used to do the work of advancing all of human society. We just can't seem to find a way to make that work, because greed overwhelms all efforts to do so.