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Yea it’s fuckin dumb to murder people over cartoon drawings.
It isn't as dumb as it is bigoted to imply that muslims are murderous extremists.
Maybe, but that’s not what’s happening here.
Pop quiz: name a group of people who could be considered the 'fanbase' of the prophet named Muhammad.
The mistake you’re making here is the only person saying ALL Muslims are like this in this thread is you. That would be a bigoted statement but only you are saying that.
I don't know what to tell you man, bigotry doesn't have some kind of prerequisite precision of language that makes it so.
If someone said 'fanatical trans people will sexualize your children if you leave them alone together', it would be pretty clear what the intent and effect of the statement was even though it doesn't explicitly name all trans people as its subject. It's crazy that it's taking more than one comment for you to see the problem, even if you feel it isn't a big deal.
Just because you didn't see the bigotry of the statement in its first reading doesn't mean it isn't there - if anything it just means you share the same bigoted perspective of the OP.
Ah, but there’s a key difference between your example and the one here. There is zero real world evidence of trans people being any more likely to be sexual predators, so the example you gave would be a bigoted statement predicated on a lie. However it is an undeniable fact that there are Islamist extremists who make credible death threats and frequently follow through when people draw pictures. That’s what makes it a legitimate criticism.
First: I'm not going to be linking to any evidence of this (equally bigoted) statement because I don't want anyone here to be confused about the intent of the comparison. But it should go without saying that there are absolutely examples of trans individuals committing sexual assaults - just like how any other random sampling of people large enough will contain examples of any number of hideous crimes committed by those people.
Second: The point isn't that there are people who commit those crimes within that group, the problem comes from attributing those people to a quality or belief shared by an entire minority (in the western world) of people whose membership in that group makes them subject to violence, bigotry, and marginalization themselves.
It isn't criticism, it's islamophobia, and has been used as the justification for all kinds of unspeakable violence committed against Muslims all across the world.