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Climate denialists – 23 in Senate and 100 in House – are all Republicans and make US an outlier internationally

US politics is an outlier bastion of climate denial with nearly one in four members of Congress dismissing the reality of climate change, even as alarm has grown among the American public over dangerous global heating, an analysis has found.

A total of 123 elected federal representatives – 100 in the House of Representatives and 23 US senators – deny the existence of human-caused climate change, all of them Republicans, according to a recent study of statements made by current members.

“It’s definitely concerning,” said Kat So, campaign manager for energy and environment campaigns at the Center for American Progress, who wrote the report.

The report defined climate deniers as those who say that the climate crisis is not real or not primarily caused by humans, or claim that climate science is not settled, that extreme weather is not caused by global warming or that planet-warming pollution is beneficial.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And that's just the ones denying it...

Lots more understand it's a real thing, but are perfectly happy we set record breaking fossil fuels production under Biden.

Because it's one of the few things propping up "the economy".

Unfortunately pulling coal out of the ground and shipping it to China where they burn coal less efficiently leads to even more climate change than just burning it here.

If the rest really cared, we wouldn't be breaking records as we speak

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i might be misreading your point - apologies if so.

shipping coal to china

Was this a general, global statement? Or specifically the US mining coal to sell to china?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Here's an article about the records we broke under Biden:

https://www.vox.com/climate/24098983/biden-oil-production-climate-fossil-fuel-renewables

Here's some specifically about shipping coal to China:

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/more-coal-is-being-shipped-by-sea-than-ever-before

https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/news-insights/latest-news-headlines/us-coal-shipments-to-china-surge-more-than-30-fold-amid-australian-trade-dispute-66154595

But for your question:

Both. It's not unique to the US, even though that's what I was talking about. And China is (meant isn't) the only country with few regulations buying it up.

Across the globe countries do stuff like a small amount of electric buses because voters do care about climate change. However as they use less fossil fuels, they still produce the same or even more. They just ship them to countries with less regulations resulting in more pollution before even factoring in the carbon costs to transport it.

Because climate change is a global issue, it still hurts the original country along with everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks - to be clear I wasn’t challenging you, just asking a follow up question, I appreciate the sources!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No worries, I should have thrown some on the first comment.

People want things to better which is good.

But often they reflexively get mad when you point out things aren't better just because some things around you are better.

If we're going to fix a global problem, we need to look at the whole globe, not just what's next to us.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This is exactly why I hate uplifting news about some places reducing their emissions or other pollution. It paints the accomplishments as happening in a vacuum, when in fact the problem likely has been moved elsewhere. If all the major countries are decreasing pollution but the global picture still shows an increase, are we really fixing anything, or just shuffling the numbers around?

Nature is the only one not lying.