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A place to discuss positive changes that can make work more equitable, and to vent about current practices. We are NOT against work; we just want the fruits of our labor to be recognized better.

Our Philosophies:

All workers must be paid a living wage for their labor.
Income inequality is the main cause of lower living standards.
Workers must join together and fight back for what is rightfully theirs.
We must not be divided and conquered. Workers gain the most when they focus on unifying issues.

Our Goals

Higher wages for underpaid workers.
Better worker representation, including but not limited to unions.
Better and fewer working hours.
Stimulating a massive wave of worker organizing in the United States and beyond.
Organizing and supporting political causes and campaigns that put workers first.

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Your opinion on HSE (lemmy.world)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hi.

I was curious about peoples opinion of HSE, especially in the context of the modern workplace.

It seems to be mostly nonsense. Or it seems to be about covering the asses of the management in case something actually happens at work, not really about keeping people safe. Mostly the solutions are to sign another piece of paper.

Especially the idea that every large accident is a consequence of a lot of small incidents that accumulates. This idea just seems made specifically to blame the people on the bottom of the hierarchy whenever something occurs.

Anyways. HSE useful or not?

Edit: HSE - Health, safety and environment.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The idea isn't that one big accident is the result of many smaller ones. You theoretically could be completely safe and then have an unpredictable and terrible freak accident.

What the HSE are trying to say is that if you diligently record all your smaller incidents that it could draw a picture that helps you predict a bigger incident before it happens and implement control measures to mitigate that risk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I've never worked in the UK, so I don't know what the processes are like, but here's my two cents from the perspective of probabilities.

It's possible to have a large, freak accident at an otherwise safe work environment. But if an environment has lots of small issues, it seems more likely for a larger issue to happen there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I agree. If your workplace has 1000 slips, trips and falls every year, then,

A. Why is the floor so slippy / covered in obstacles, is the foot wear worn by employees appropriate etc?

B. How long until someone falls awkwardly, hits their head on the way down and dies? (An unlikely scenario, but with the worst possible consequence)

Reporting things like slips trips and falls is a pain in the arse but at the end of the day it's to protect you, your colleagues AND the employer, presumably OP is much more concerned with going home alive than you are about a few thousand pounds fine for the boss.