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[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This pisses me off. The amount of hubris is appalling. They told you weather was on its way but it didn't look like it so you went anyways? So you trust your eyes that can only see a fraction of the sky more than weather satellites? Fuck off. Poor girl. Reared by a moron.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So many warning signs he just ignores. Worst was when she directly told him her shoes were too slippery.

As an avid hiker who can't wait to introduce my kids to more difficult hikes when they grow up, I'll always remember this story before deciding to ignore any warnings.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

Not excusing the decision-making that led to this - but I've noticed myself that the scarcity of permits for some of these legendary hikes absolutely impacts decision-making. If this has been on your list for years, and you really don't know when you'll get another shot, you'll be more willing to take risks you normally wouldn't.

The permits need to be limited of course, I'm not suggesting otherwise. The only real solution here is internal. One good idea for situations where you may have to make a decision while emotional is to establish the go/no-go criteria before the emotions hit.

So for example, if pursuing hikes that have killed the unwary time and again, set some rules for when and why you ditch before you ever get the permit. Of course, then you have to stick with that pre-made decision for it to work.

I think another factor about some of these is how many regular (as in, not-outdoor-athlete) people do them every day. It gives an illusion of safety. I've done this hike - I'm a former rock climber, very comfortable with heights and exposure, and the cables felt recklessly unsafe to me. I really can't believe more people don't fall, and I'd recommend everyone use a harness and clip themselves to the cables.

Honestly between those two factors, the way our brains respond to scarcity / FOMO, and the illusion of safety caused by so much traffic...I think there are many people who believe they'd make a better call who would've actually done the same when it came down to it.