this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2024
677 points (94.7% liked)

Science Memes

10923 readers
2250 users here now

Welcome to c/science_memes @ Mander.xyz!

A place for majestic STEMLORD peacocking, as well as memes about the realities of working in a lab.



Rules

  1. Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human.
  2. Keep it rooted (on topic).
  3. No spam.
  4. Infographics welcome, get schooled.

This is a science community. We use the Dawkins definition of meme.



Research Committee

Other Mander Communities

Science and Research

Biology and Life Sciences

Physical Sciences

Humanities and Social Sciences

Practical and Applied Sciences

Memes

Miscellaneous

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Tell me you are from ~~the US~~ North America without telling me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

as if my Florida Man posting didn't already give it away :P

that said I have learned to prefer YYYY-MM-DD for all my cataloguing needs on computer because it sorts far more easily

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They could be from Canada too. We're in that fun zone of being mostly Oxford/metric/DMY, but due to proximity and history we still use a lot of Webster/imperial/MDY. My dad is from the past so he speaks in Fahrenheit but calls it "English". Send help.

However, saying "July 23rd" feels more natural and efficient to me than "The 23rd of July". That translates to me writing 07/23 over 23/07. To each their own though, I'm not gonna harsh any mellows over date formatting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Coming from somewhere with the format the other way around, we do indeed say "23rd July" without all that extra fluff. So exactly the same efficiency wise. We simply count days like we'd count other stuff. For example I definitely didn't had my coffee fourth just now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The funny thing is that both "July twenty-third" and "the twenty-third of July" are common in the US.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

“Cup of coffee” is a mess of a phrase if you start to actually think about it. In English, it’s genitive; in German, it’s accusative; in Spanish, it’s nominative.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But "Coffee fourth"/"fourth coffee" and "23rd July"/"July 23rd" are different things. I don't think it's a good comparison.

With the coffees you are counting how many you've had. The thing being counted is explicitly stated in the phrase.

With dates, you are not counting the number of July's. This isn't my 23rd July, but the 23rd day of this July. The thing being counted is only implied by colloquial understanding.

So yes, "coffee fourth" doesn't work, but that doesn't have much bearing on how to say a date in my opinion

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're right, but the same must be said for July 23rd. Both are abbreviating "day in the month of july" to a simple mention of the month.

At the end of the day both work, both are equally efficient, and simply come down to habit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that's my thinking too. English, and language in general, is very fluid. Different regions will have different colloquialisms, and even different dialects of the same language. So long as we all understand what is meant does it really matter all that much how it was said?