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The Vladimir Putin Interview (tuckercarlson.com)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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I like how Putin clarified that Soviet Ukrainianization and indigenization of other areas of the USSR was not a bad policy in principle, makes it seem less anti-communist than his February 24, 2022 speech where he just says Lenin created Ukraine. This time he's close to the Russian leftist view, that it was the nationalists that divided Russia and the Soviets reunited and stabilized the country.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Real talk what y'all think of this? Someone do us a favor and watch a fat chunk and get back to us (it might be me)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Putin is a clever, intelligent person. He know who Tucker's audience is, he knows he's not speaking to some vast movement of communists in the west but to isolationist reactionaries, paleoconservatives, etc and he's tailored his messaging for this. It's not that different from his own base of traditionalist reactionary conservatives in Russia so it's not that hard.

Putin is not a communist and even if he were, his job in an interview like this would not be best served by defending the image of the USSR. I did find it interesting he mentioned at one point in his historical monologue at the start (first 30 minutes) how he'd looked in the Soviet archives and found the communist party was sincere and honest in its approach to other nations in the period around the Great Patriotic War (WW2). He omits bothering to speculate (or chooses not to for the sake of his audience) on motives of the USSR multiple times, simply putting it down as Lenin did this for reasons and Stalin did this for reasons and so on.

It is interesting as he mentions Stalin he says claims of crimes under him rather than just straight up saying crimes but there is something to be said that Stalin is very popular in Russia even today and bad-mouthing him, even in a foreign media press may go against ingrained instincts he's since developed. Still, more fair to Stalin than just about anyone in the west could be.

As to the OP mentioning, "I like how Putin clarified that Soviet Ukrainianization and indigenization of other areas of the USSR was not a bad policy in principle" I think this is best read as reactionary nationalist stuff. Basically that people of a culture should stick together, that there's a duty to blood there, to preserving culture, to a commonality. You hear the same stuff from many reactionary thinkers.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

As to the OP mentioning, “I like how Putin clarified that Soviet Ukrainianization and indigenization of other areas of the USSR was not a bad policy in principle” I think this is best read as reactionary nationalist stuff. Basically that people of a culture should stick together, that there’s a duty to blood there, to preserving culture, to a commonality. You hear the same stuff from many reactionary thinkers.

How is it reactionary and nationalist to have a shared Belarussian, Ukrainian and Russian space where each national identity flourishes but is also interconnected? If Putin wants to live in harmony with Belarus or pre-maidan and to some extent post-maidan Ukraine instead of devouring them, where's the issue?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There's no issue in that instance but he doesn't approach it from a Marxist point of view clearly. It's good he didn't shit on the USSR there yes but we shouldn't misunderstand what type of a person he is and his political philosophy. He started his political life very naive and to some extent he still is compared to even your average poster here who understands deeply the irredeemable and uncompromising nature of the white supremacist capitalist west and it's imperialist system and how it cannot be reasoned with, bargained, with and under what principles it operates and what it operates in service to.

I was just stating how I think he views it and is trying to sell it and probably how Tucker perceives it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Oh alr nice, I see how it fits in the broader context of your post.