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Their system is a natural result of their "ideals": racism, slavery, classism, privilege, patriarchy, theft, genocide, etc.
We are talking about people who were somewhat contemporary with the utopian movement, who are considered to be the an ideological ancestor to socialism. Some utopians had slavery backed in. Them being flawed doesnt make them not idealists, name a revolutionary movement that didnt pull shit like early American government or whatever schizo shit the French revolution devolved into before Napoleon.