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They also thought Hilary was going to win in a landslide. It's laughable how dumb the DNC is and how they think they know so much better than the American population. The primaries happened l. It's over. He's who we're stuck with
With these leaked conversations from Pelosi, Schumer, and Jefferies, it doesn't seem like the party thinks he's the candidate they're stuck with. Seems even the leadership feels they were kept in the dark about Biden's current state through the primaries.
My question is, who is ride or die for Biden at this point? The people I know on the left are voting against Trump, rather than for Biden or even for a Democrat, and have said they would vote for just about any Democrat with a pulse to beat Trump.
Is it the moderates? Maybe in 2020, when Biden was the familiar voice of reason running against a proven conman with four years of endless headlines of corruption and destruction of norms. But that's not what people have stored in their recent memory this time around, and it's not the Biden we have now. He can't string together a lucid rebuttal to the practiced silver tongue that seems to have half of America fooled.
This late in the game, the only way I see the Democrats beating Trump is if they win the same moderate voters who were sick of the uncertainty and disruptions of the Trump presidency, and Biden can't seem to coherently communicate the dangers of returning to that anymore. The Democrats need to put forward a candidate that remembers both the start of their sentences and points they were trying to make by the time they reach the end, even after 8pm.
I think you may be mistaken if you're implying that the DNC is the entity that is trying to get Biden to step aside.
The DNC is currently engaged in an all-out effort to lock Biden in by getting delegates to commit before convention. Those who are trying to get him to step aside, on the other hand, are a bunch of Democratic congressional representatives, donors, and other party figures -- not the national party committee itself.
Edit -- just since yesterday, apparently the DNC has dropped its plan to hold the "roll call" by which they were going to get their delegates committed before August. A group of Democratic senators who had written and co-signed a letter in protest of that activity have withdrawn the letter, saying their purpose is achieved (i.e., saying the DNC isn't going ahead with the bullshit). But now maybe all bets are off since the president has contracted COVID?
They did this to us, they deserve it. They have been doing it for decades to protect neolib rule and have set up the "lesser of two evils" bs for my entire life. I'm sure your namesake isn't very happy with them either.
I'm sure he's not unhappy with them enough to say he'd be happy when they get the wall when Trump is elected.
No one, fucking no one, deserves fascism, and you saying otherwise shows just how privileged and out of touch you really are.
I'm not privileged in the slightest, I'm incredibly pissed off that we're going to have to go through this because of them. I'm pissed off for all the people who will absolutely suffer because of them.
Is what you could say to the literal fascists trying to take over the country, but no, instead you'd rather criticize elected liberals because they aren't fighting in exactly the way you want then to fight.
You can't blame a wolf for being a wolf. Republican fascists are a lost cause, they're the wolves acting like wolves. Of course I'm pissed at them, but it really feels like the DNC is trying to cling on to the old ways so hard that they're willing to damn us all.
They could be better if they gave a shit about people. I dont think Republicans can be better than they are. They are finally allowed to take the mask off and be who they always were.
Then get rid of the wolf, once the wolf is gone you can start your fight with the person you think was too timid in fighting the wolf, but until you get rid of the wolf, every time you stop to chastise the timid, the wolf gets an opportunity to strike.
There weren’t any real primaries. I literally one had one choice on my ballot
Do you expect it to be any better if the DNC forces Biden out?
Bullshit, we never had genuine primaries.
There never are when an incumbent is running. I agree that that's a bad thing, but it's the normal thing and the same thing that happened this year.
I agree and I want that to change after this fucking dumpster fire... but I honestly don't understand the "But we haaad primaries" argument.
The primary was genuine. The DNC candidate support was not.
Had they provided Bernie with the same media coverage and platform of support as Hillary, the passively informed wouldn’t have seen him as “the socialist who wants you to pay for other people’s kids to go to college.”
I heard from media how aloof Bernie was. Then I heard him speak and talk to people during events and learned he was much less aloof than they made him out to be. All part of the business as usual party.
It would be nice if MSNBC didn't go on about Bernie literally executing them using the old Communist tropes too... Between corporate media and the DNC real candidates that aren't just neolib assholes will never get a fair shake.
Absolutely. Not to mention Cambridge Analytica’s manipulation of Facebook users through psychographic profiling having a huge influence on the boomers.
Some would say, anti democratic.
Then Trump wins if Biden stays.
No way Biden makes it though the campaign. He looks worse and worse at every speech he gives. That job is taking it toll.
Not guaranteed, it looks bleak but this has been one weird ass election season. I mean fuck, Trump nearly getting killed somehow didn't affect the polls, plus both Trump and Biden could easily drop dead at any day of natural causes (including illness) just because of sheer age
Only thing I can really say for certain is vote as if your life depends on it, have an escape plan prepared, and be prepared for a potential civil war because seriously what the hell is this election