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How is this anti environmental? It's 100% true that a lot of environmentalist celebrities/politicians are massive hypocrites.
World leaders and celebrities took private jets to a UN Climate summit.
Facebook people just casually ignore that we can do both too. This meme is definitely supposed to involve feelings of "stupid liberals" same as the arguments with EVs with "do you know where your electricity comes from hahaha stupid liberal".
They never think we can do both. That is as individuals should start getting familiar with being more eco focused while also holding the heaviest polluters responsible. That they are not mutually exclusive.
Humans are fickle. In this meme we can say both the singer is good for promoting eco friendliness, but bad for being a large polluter. People don't fit into black and white boxes. Facebook though, has completely monetized that theory
in terms of environmental, it's a huge portion that is caused by the biggest polluters - but average humans combined also cause about 30-40% too. So I won't call it a waste to focus on both at the same time
Yes… overall regular people cause about 1/5th of it…
…But like 57 companies do ALL the rest. Seems a lot more simple we just stop electing Rs and neo-libs, and get laws passed that stop the major contributors, rather than preach to people who - if asked to sacrifice more than they already do (and shouldn’t have to if we first just target the major contributors who can afford to sacrifice much more easily) - will be easier for reactionaries to preach to (for example, see what happened with the Carter administration asking for regular folks to “sacrifice” driving their cars then paving the way for Reagan to de-regulate further)
So both strategically and more effectively, we should target those companies with legislative efforts rather than shitting on Bon Jovi for telling people “let’s save the environment” right before he belts out another rendition of “It’s my life.”
Oh absolutely, the meme is stupid for sure. it's just redirecting the public to think that it's not a huge deal. My point is that we're not "off the hook" because other people are worse. Even just at 20%, we should actively work to become greener, and those are incremental. Think about a heat pump instead of a gas furnace (or maybe a dual fuel). Think about taking the bus or walking vs driving. Etc etc."
However, the focus should be absolutely on the major polluters, those people are assholes and should be held accountable. In my book, things like the hurricane in Texas or the tornadoes across the midwest were directly because of the oil companies - and they should be held accountable for the destruction they allowed to happen.
I don’t quite see why. Their presence and actions affect the lives of thousands of people, and logistically doing the same with passenger vehicles is difficult due to schedules and fanaticism. The same cannot be said about 99% of people in traffic.
By bike even… passenger vehicles -even EVs are frowned upon these days…
Trains are gas-using vehicles, and not many mobility advocates frown upon them.
Bands transport lots of equipment as well as people that are often targeted. It’s not perfectly efficient to move them by limo, but there’s a logic to using something more than a bike or train.
I don’t even see people hate on vans or trucks when they’re used to transport large quantities of goods around a city. If the vehicle is at least somewhat necessary for the purpose, that can be okay.
It's a common talking point of climate deniers, so they can excuse their own inaction.
*Edit: speeeling
Would you have world leaders fly commercial? That's just asking for an assassination.
Yes