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I wonder why there was a huge comment to upvote ratio then I saw the person who made this… Yeah T*RFs suck.
CPGB-ML are so, so much worse than TERFs. CPB (and WPUK they keep supporting) are TERFs.
CPGB-ML are against any and all "LGBT ideology" and they will expell members for it. They are against all "identity politics" with very narrow exceptions for women's rights and anti-racism.
I can't find it now but there was a tweet on their official account comparing gay rights to guide dogs for the blind in an attempt to drive home just how frivolous gay rights are, arguing those are not class issues but special group interests - and alienating everyone who cares about either queer liberation or disability justice in one fell swoop.
They are not just tailist, they are full on right-deviationists (patsocs, nazbols, Strasserists, Duginists, etc), and I will die on this hill. They also collaborate with US patsocs and promote them.
Fully on board with smacking down and censoring all CPGB-ML output, to anyone not familiar with British leftist organizing this stance might seem confusing, but trust me when saying this as a lifetime ML-organizer in the UK, they deserve to be fully and unquestionably censored from this platform.
I would genuinely put the failure for any communist party to launch in the last 50 years directly in there (and Tommy Sheridans) hands.
If you would like me to elaborate further on this I'd be happy to do so, but for brevity this is the sum of my opinion.
Please do elaborate!
@ComradePupIvy would likely be interested too but I'm tech illiterate and can't figure out how to @ them.
BTW is this a good article on them? https://www.ebb-magazine.com/essays/inside-the-last-days-of-the-cpgb-ml
Well for one, they welcomed Benes Ayo, a National Bolshevik into their ranks. This should highlight the character and bottom of the barrel scraping this org has to resort to due to alienating the vast majority of the UK left for their insistence on parroting the UK upper classes lines on trans people.
At a time when the UK upper class is implementing segregation in for LGBT+ people, what the fuck are they thinking? It reminds me of the 'US Workers Party' that tried to stamp out Asian communists in the wild west era, or white labour organisers undermining black comrades during Jim Crow era in hope of gaining the upper classes approval, and benefits for enforcing segregation.
Are we seeking the upper classes approval for concessions, or are we communists?
Any org that tolerates open Nazbol's needs to be dismantled.
Tommy Sheridan is self evident from learning about his court cases and sexual harrassment, both represent dinasours of a time of the UK literally no one wants to return too but them (Social Dem era, 1960s-1990s, when gays got sectioned and women could be legally raped, couldnt have bank accounts or drink in pubs)
They direct confused centrists into their orgs by being 'the' communist parties already established and then make socialist progress more difficult by alienating anyone who tries to interact with their orgs in good faith by refusing to remove problematic people from positions of power.
Thank you!
Which UK political party would you recommend joining? I've been circling around CPB hoping they drop their TERF stance but that doesn't seem to be happening any time soon: https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/communist-party-and-young-communist-league-welcome-supreme-court-ruling-definition
I wish I had a good answer for you, I dont have one, they all suck.
I've just stuck to doing direct action for activist groups at this point like with Living Rent or stuff around safe consumption rooms.
Yeah it does look this way, thank you very much comrade.
Looks like the future is in our hands comrade, good luck whatever you do.