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...in what world does a leftist politician support the Kremlin's 2014 annexation of Crimea? I can't fathom that. Did he think Moscow still practiced socialism or something?
There's a link provided, but I don't know French.
He has always been worshipping communism, and hates America. That’s it. He can give good speeches but he’s not that smart when it comes to anyone VS the USA.
The link quotes him calling the Kiev regime a putsch, but that was back in 2014, and that was in fact a revolution. It's not about Zelensky, but he does give all the current talking points (neonazis in Kiev, NATO provocations, Russia can't have NATO at their doorstep...). BTW no one did anything about Russia stealing Crimea, either, everyone was still trying to justify not doing anything.
That was 10 years ago and he has been (very) slowly toning it down: when making the left alliance a few weeks ago, he finally relented on allowing weapons to be sent to Ukraine because the rest of the left made him, there's still hope he'll give up the anti-NATO talk... eventually. If he makes it to the government, when someone asks him about Russia bombing children's hospitals, at some point he'll have nowhere to run because he doesn't actually support that. He shouts and curses quite violently at journalists who help out the far right, but on serious subjects in serious interviews, he actually has to be reasonable (and he is). On the last presidential elections, when he showed up to the round 1 left parties debates, he was all proper and serious and making his points properly and sensibly - and then he lost on round 1 and the next day in the street, he screamed his head off at the first journalist who put a microphone in his face.
Oh, and over this side of the world, no one claims Russia is socialist. But leftists do get mad at the EU and NATO for crushing the farmer class and playing the capitalist hand, that's what that is about.
I mean, he’s not actually a contender, is he? His party is on the fringe of the left wing coalition. The other parties said they wouldn’t make him PM and he said he wouldn’t demand it. Macronists certainly aren’t going to accept him.
To me, the only 2 outcomes are gridlock or someone non-controversial from the left. Laurent Berger is a name I saw come up but I’m not the world’s foremost French politics knower.
Yeah. Just as a progressive I have higher expectations for other left-leaning people. We're supposed to be the sensible ones that stay current and want people to have good lives.
Though I do recognize the existence of what I call conservative leftism, where they're not current and resist changing their minds, and are left mainly because of what they've learned in the past. Could also call it dogmatic leftism. It's when they don't like learning new things and challenging their own beliefs to keep up with a shifting world. It's traditionalism, just a leftist tradition, and I dislike it almost as much as every other kind of rigid-minded conservatism.
Someone else pointed out that the position was old too, so he may have moderated it since then.
Same for the left in germany. Previously it was full of people supporting Putin. Those people founded there own party now, calling for left policies only for germans. Social nationalism. The remaining people in the left claim to be pro Ukraine but are still against sending weapond to Ukraine, making them essentially pro russian.
The German left is a joke in general, sadly.
In my experience, in Europe older lefties who had their ideological growth during the days of the Soviet Union still have knee jerk pro-Russia reactions.
That doesn't mean they can't be brought around by logic, for example by pointing out aggressor-victim structure of that invasion or the similarities between the invasion of Ukraine by Russia and the invasion of Iraq by the US (as those people also have anti-US knee jerk reactions, hence universally saw the US invasion as imperialistic aggression, this is a perfect reference to use to get them to seen Russia's invasion of Ukraine from a principled viewpoint).
Still, the more tribalist and sloganeering lefties of the old school (mainly traditional Communists) can't really be reasoned out of their pro-Russia posture in my experience (hence the Tankie phenomenon).
I wouldn't draw much from Melenchon's support for the 2014 invasion of Crimea since back then even the mainstream politicians in Europe didn't really care much about it.
I would be curious to know what his posture is now, though.
Apparently Mélenchon supported the annexation but not the war, supported Putin's foreign politics but not his domestic policies.
There is more to it than left and right. Orbán is mostly neither, Fico is a far left Putin supporter.
Fico is not "far left". His party is associated with the Progressive Alliance, which internationally has members such at the UK labour party, the US Democratic party. He's a center-left populist, not some Trotskyist who wants to abolish private property of the means of production. So he is broadly in some extreme diluted sense of the word "left", but being pro-Putin doesn't make someone far left.
I stand corrected, original point still stands though
Putin is the opposite of left wing. He literally crushed opposition from socialists and communists and ushered in an era of revanchist fascism and oligarchy. He might be the purest example of a far right leader on Earth. Being pro-Putin almost by definition means you’re a reactionary and not far-left.
You gotta ask the lemmygrad and lemmy.ml people. It makes perfect sense apparently, and they'll explain it all to you and how you're the dumb one (not just dumb but like openly malicious and lying and you're trying to fuck up the whole world on purpose and you are bad) if you don't get it.
I have to warn you, though, the middle step is "???".
Lot of whatabout NATO is in there somewhere
Ah yes the "it's ok because the USA did the same things first but it's bad that the USA did the things"