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You don't prevent your bar from becoming a nazi bar by asking nicely though.
So what's the plan then? You going to punch the other side in the face to win their votes and show them how anti-fascist you are?
Maybe if fascists got their faces punched in more often they'd understand that getting punched in the face sucks and that maybe they shouldn't advocate for punching people in the face in the first place.
Was Biden voting against same-sex marriages and gay people serving in the military a fascist once? Will Democrats call Biden a recovered fascist?
You once were a child, making poor decisions. Are you still that way? (waves at the rest of the crowd to hold their comments) No? Would you look at that then, it's like people are capable of growing and learning.
So, you fuck that bullshit narrative here and now, past and future actions don't mean shit. People change for better or worse, and you don't sit on your ass and point fingers because past or promises, but by current actions, things occurring here and now.
And right the fuck now there's only one realistic option for the LGBT+ community in the states, so I don't particularly give a damn what the fuck happened decades ago. If you're still stuck in the past, might want to reflect on that. The rest of us have bigger shit to worry about.
except biden didn't learn or grow; he has a long history of going with the status quo and the status quo currently says that gays are okay and if gays were not okay tomorrow with the status quo; biden would tow that line as well.
and i wish i had your privilege of ignoring the recent past; we've learned from it because it was so painful and we're still trying to recover.
If you're worried about LGBTQ+ community then you'd be advocating for Biden to step down.
hi, am part of said community. i'll gladly punch a fascist in the face for being fascist. it's like a cancer, essentially; you give it any room to breathe & it will take over the whole thing. just look at what happened to the skinhead movement. but, yeah, they want us dead or in camps anyway & civil discussion obviously doesn't work when fascist philosophy only works if everyone involved is actively playing dumb & as such, not playing by the same rules as everyone else.
yeah & i'll see you banned eventually, just like all the other prominent bad faith actors here. you're not half as special or clever as you think you are.
e : i love you had to slip in some BLM misinfo there. i'm not even from the US lol
Is that your reaction to deal with people not in the cult, to ban them... silence them even? Good thing you're not from Palestine, or you'd be wondering why Biden is helping kill children.
You make it clear they're not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they've shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they've changed.
I've been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.
Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?
So 30% support fascism according to you, but come elections over 40% are expected to vote for Trump. Who are the other 10%? Are the people voting for RFK Jr. fascist? Would that mean over 50% of Americans are fascist? Do you expect 39% to win in a war against over 50%?
According to these facts you present, what you're suggesting here is is that the following time periods in American history we were ruled by fascists and everyone that voted for those Presidents were fascists?
2017-2021 2001-2009 1989-1993 1981-1989 1974-1977 1969-1974
Your argument is that everyone who votes for the Republican (Trump presumably in this case) is fascist, is it not?
Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!
Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn't the same as kicking them out of the state.
Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That's what the slippery slope fallacy is.
They saw no point in debating your exaggerated question because it was so different to their position.
They showed that they understood your debating technique better than you showed.
No, they showed that they wanted to engage in fascist behavior against a majority of voters right (according to polls).
If you put a paedophile in charge of the country, none of our children are safe.
I had planned on voting for Biden, but seeing how much Democrats are lying and gaslighting I'm actually thinking about staying home at this point. But you must know, even Biden has a history of questionable behavior with kids, sniffing them, touching them inappropriately, and it appears (according to Snopes) that Ashley Biden wrote about him showering with her and confirmed the diary to be hers in court.
Furthermore, Trump has not been found guilty of being a pedophile. Democrats had 4 years to bring up charges on Trump being a pedo. They did not do it. Biden doesn't call Trump a pedo. It is the Democrat voters grasping at straws who are in a cult making accusations rather than presenting policy because they lack intelligence. There is also this:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jul/07/donald-trump-sexual-assault-lawsuits-norm-lubow
Even more proof that the Katie Johnson story stinks and the media doesn't report on it, cause they already investigated it and determined it lacked credibility:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
There are others too:
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-rape-case_n_581a31a5e4b0c43e6c1d9834?h2bhwth1ccjgzxgvi=
Trump may be a pedophile, but to prove that you need a trial and evidence.
Your double standards are striking (across multiple conversations here). In this case you've concluded that a girl who got death threats for bringing a case against Trump withdrew, not because of the death threats, but because she was lying, and you've equated smelling hair with rape.
I once said that I thought that a politician who is famous for some pretty racist policies was probably trying to do the right thing in an admittedly stupidly foolish way on a separate issue, and people got very cross with me online for defending her, but it never once made me inclined to vote for her, that would be idiotic, so I simply don't believe for a minute you were thinking of voting for Biden. If you want to claim you were prepared to vote for Biden, go on, what was it that made you think he would be a better president than trump?
The reasons I was inclined to vote for Biden is because I am agnostic. I support LGBTQ+ rights. I want to see the government providing more safety nets for people. Trump helped foster the environment for the Jan 6. insurrection. I'm not considering staying home to help Trump win. I'm considering staying home because Democrats actions lately have been gaslighting and lying. The state I'm in is not a swing state.
You claim Democrats are the ones gaslighting and lying?!
That's what I said, yes. The ones gaslighting about Biden right now are.
What do you think gaslighting means, and how far do you feel you've been gaslit?