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[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

They murder gay people, that was their point.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Israel murders those gay people too, as well as their families and friends. The answer to homophobia just isn't genocide ๐Ÿคท

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Is that relevant?

If it is, I guess we could all take a minute and talk about how Israel has such a problem controlling violent homophobic religious extremists that Jerusalem Pride has needed a ratio of 1 armed guard for every 6 marchers.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The fact that Israel has a pride march at all kinda works against whatever point you're making.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Do you feel that needing 1 armed guard for every 6 marchers is indicative that it is incredibly safe to be out as queer in Jerusalem?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who provides the armed guards, out of interest?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Why are the armed guards needed?

Who are they being protected from?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Do you think a pride march in the Gaza strip would be any safer?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Ah great, well thank you for the explanation regarding their implication. That is helpful.

Do you happen to also understand if their position is logical, or is your meaning then, "They murder, so we must murder them, so that all of the murderers have been murdered."

(Please correct the above if I am misunderstanding)

Because there is a bit of a problem with that sentiment as well.

I'm not stating that you take this position, so do not take this next statement as targeted at you, rather it is targeted at those who may hold the above sentiment. That is, progress is rarely generated from the barrel of a gun. Then we live in a world where B's hate against A is justified, because A hates B. This is a perpetual cycle of endless violence and war, that is the end result of this type of thinking, and why these comments are so negative because a lot of us have lived long enough to see this cycle, every day, it does not end through bloodshed.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They make a valid point, that most of the residents of Gaza despise the rainbow community, and many of them would physically harm them given the chance.

With this in mind, it's quite bizarre that a Lemmy community built around the rainbow community is formally in support of them. I personally think the best thing to do in this situation would have been to stay out of it.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Plenty of people in the rural southern Appalachian county I grew up in would and did physically harm me when given the chance. Am I supposed to be okay with bombing their kids and hospitals now or something?

I think the best thing to do in this situation is not bomb hospitals and children. ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not as a matter of policy, no.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

texas, florida, ohio, and utah would like a word

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Those states execute people for the crime of being gay?