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Netherlands vs Türkiye (Berlin, 21:00) (sopuli.xyz)

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

We didn’t have Hitler in our history though. You can’t compare roman salute with wolf gesture. It’s like “we should ban knives because some minorities can kill people with it”.

We can’t beg Europe to like us either. Europeans are uncomfortable with the fact that we just exist. Should we also disappear? Just to make them pleasant?

As I know, Italia also symbolizes wolfs. What if one day Germany says “wolf is fascist Turkish symbol, you will not use it”, what would you think?

I’m pretty sure you would say “yes daddy Germany uWu I won’t 🙏🙏”

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We didn’t have Hitler in our history though. You can’t compare roman salute with wolf gesture

Turks committed genocide towards Armenians (and are still perpetrating one against Kurds).

Europeans are uncomfortable with the fact that we just exist.

It's not about existence, it's about extremism and authocracy making its way into Europe. I don't think any European looks at Hungary with respect, either.

Italy also symbolizes wolfs.

Wolves are not correlated, at least in Italy, to paramilitary fascist organisation responsible for war crimes. And, of course, there's always a degree of interpretation: a wolf is a wolf, a wolf salute is a reminder of the violent recent history of Turkey and its accommodation into the reality of "the normal".

I believe Turkey is a wonderful country, but there's definitely better ways to show patriotism than to resort to extremist political affiliation for doing it. Like, I don't know, a Turkish flag?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Flag, wolf and wolf salute are my symbols and I’ll use these no matter what. I won’t give up any of these even if an extremist group used it. Did EU banned the cross symbol for extremists like KKK? Then STFU.

Also extremism and autocracy are already exists in the EU.

There’s a far-right party in Germany, rising every year. Who won the fucking election in the Italy?! How hypocrite you can be?

Also everyone downvoting but no one answering this: Bild announced our footballers suspension 1 day before we did our defense. Is this justice? Is this democracy you guys so praise about? Isn’t this proves UEFA is highly influenced by Germany?

The hypocrisy of Europeans makes me more nationalist 🤘🤘