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Hexbear China watchers: Good ways to access CPC debates/strategy? (hexbear.net)

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Hi all, Something that I'm curious about with regards to China and the CPC are the different ideological factions that exist in the present day, particularly with regards to economic strategy, at home and abroad.

Going off of @[email protected]'s many useful comments in the news mega regarding Chinese trade policy, its commitment to dollarization, and continuing the export-led growth model that it has benefited from, I am curious to know what kind of discussions are taking place within the CPC between what I assume to be various liberal and left factions related to these topics. I know the party is lock-step when it comes time to make decisions, but surely there are many CPC members within the national congress who have differing views about how they should navigate the evolving international situation with a belligerent US and a global south that desperately wants more sovereignty and an end to Western unilateralism.

Is there any way a Westerner can be privvy to these kind of conversations within the Chinese government? Thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (28 children)

If you can understand Mandarin Chinese, this 3 hour debate between Justin Lin Yifu (neoclassical) and Zhang Weiying (Austrian school) from 2016 - widely popularized as China’s Keynes vs Hayek Great Debate - is everything you need to know about China’s industrial policy for the past decade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Thanks! Seems like a good motivator for me to learn Chinese oh-shit . Are more Marxist voices less prominent in these debates?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (13 children)

There are no Marxist voices in the mainstream today. All the distinguished Marxist economists have long been banished to the humanities and social science departments long ago. They do write books, sometimes articles/blogs on the internet, and newspaper columns, but they have very little influence on policymaking. The mainstream is full on dominated by Western economists these days.

If you actually listen to the debate, both sides are openly making fun of the Mao era central planners for being inefficient lol.

Also FYI the correct term for Marxist economics in China is “political economy” (政治经济学). Nobody uses the word Marxist economics. Similarly, neoclassical economics is called “Western economics” (西方经济学). If you don’t know the correct terminology in Chinese, it can be very difficult to search for the relevant information you want.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are no Marxist voices in the mainstream today. All the distinguished Marxist economists have long been banished to the humanities and social science departments long ago. They do write books, sometimes articles/blogs on the internet, and newspaper columns, but they have very little influence on policymaking

do you have any ideas of how/if/when this will change?

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