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Updated advice. It's a long shot, but it's worth trying to force the Tories into third place. Share with your local friends.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Just be aware these sites often have a significant Labour bias, don't take what they say as fact.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What do you want about I know constituencies where they recommend the liberal democrats.

The reason it appears to have a Labour bias is that reality has a Labour bias right now. It isn't an unfair bias if it's just reflecting reality, you not like it is immaterial.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Please provide examples. Where labour is recommended but another party is more likely to beat the tories?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

That would only be because they are the only other large party. So for the majority of people/constituencies they are the best alternative if you want to vote to get the Tories out.

All they are doing is comparing the voting at the last general election, polling and then using that two give an option for the best way to vote them out.

Not sure what pro labour facts you think are on there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://www.reddit.com/r/LibDem/comments/1di5w9a/tactical_voting_sites_may_cost_us_seats/

I can't see any mention of stopthetories.vote in that discussion though so perhaps it's better than the others, at the very least it appears to give the poll data so there's some transparency there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So your evidence for this is a conspiracy theory on a lib dem subreddit? Do you have any actual evidence that this is a thing that happens because I know for a fact that the website is grassroots is not run by Labour. It's all about holding the Tories to account not getting Labour in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Not OP and basically agree with you.

But honestly.

It’s all about holding the Tories to account not getting Labour in.

Under FPTP there is no way to do one without the other. As others have said. Its a reality bias. FPTP will always lead to a 2 party system. Honestly the current UK system is way better then most. And shows how darn stubborn UK voters can be. As the maths very rarely works for voting outside the 2 largest parties. Without giving an advantage to what each voter considers the larger evil.

The only reason tactical voting sites like this exist. Is to try and minimise the harm 3rd party voting can do to non Tory voters. By informing them of constituencies where those parties are actually likely to win.

People complaining about bias. Truly fail to understand the point of tactical voting. As a non biased system would not need it to prevent spiting of opposition votes.