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Patrick Breyer and Pirate Party lose EU Parliament seats (stackdiary.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Patrick Breyer, a staunch defender of digital rights, laments the Pirate Party’s exit from the EU Parliament as a blow to online privacy.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, it is somewhat true that the AfD addresses people’s problems - at least they make it seem that way. But their rhetoric also ensures that people blame the wrong groups for these problems.

More than that, they target the consequences instead of the cause.

The conservatives in the USA do the same, as do the right-wing populists in other countries. The Nazis in the Third Reich also did exactly that - it’s nothing new.

All these are consequences of something else, not the cause.

AfD rises because people see problems that the other parties did not even aknowledge to exist and not because they create the problems.

Believe me, I have tried to understand why so many people don’t see through these simple tricks and even allow themselves to be misled into voting against their own interests.

That's easy. People are more worried of the day by day problems than some hypothetical future problem so they voted for the side that at least say they will resolve it.

However, I am not prepared to abandon a fact-based political discourse just because some particularly loud and snivelling people make life too easy for themselves. So I don’t think that the left should also spread lies, rely on sub-complex explanations and blame some make-believe enemies. Nor do I think that is even possible.

Fine, but the fact-based political discourse should be on both sides. Currently the only one looking at the facts are AfD. Granted that they then bend them to their agenda, but the Left simply ignore the facts as for now.

So I must honestly say that I have lost faith in the functioning of democracy.

That is something that it is always said by the people that think to be better than the other when they lose, I am sure you are better than that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for your reply. I think there is little point in continuing this thread as we are unlikely to agree. As I have said several times, I am of the opinion that migration policy is not the serious problem that many people think it is - including you, apparently. Accordingly, I also think it is wrong to say that the AfD is pursuing fact-based policies. Rather, I think that the AfD uses (and promotes) people's vague fears in order to push through its political agenda, which incidentally is not at all in the interests of the "little people" when it comes to economic policy, for example. I am also fundamentally of the opinion that politics must be designed for the long term - this is an absolute necessity, as political decisions always set the course for the future. I think it is naive to believe that political decisions can be made without any long-term effect. That's why you have to know where you want to go and weigh up what effects political decisions will have. This applies to migration policy as well as to all other policy areas. Apart from that, we also have to deal with problems such as climate change, which of course require extremely long-term planning. Like the AfD, you can simply claim that this problem doesn't exist and that you can simply carry on as before, but that doesn't change the fact that climate change is real and needs to be dealt with in a meaningful way.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Thank you for your reply. I think there is little point in continuing this thread as we are unlikely to agree.

Too bad, but it was a nice discussion.