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There are few things fascists hate as much as antifascist coalitions (lemmy.world)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (22 children)

I'm not from the USA. We have many Parties here, so maybe I'm out of touch a little.

But is it really that bad to vote some small 3rd Party? I think it's a big problem for Democracy if you only look on the two big parties. Yes it's completely unrealistic that a 3rd party gets enough votes to be the Government, but why be part of this Problem? And isn't a Vote for some small party STILL better than a vote for Trumps Party? Where is the difference to that my 0,001% goes to the Democratic Party or a smaller party? It's still 0,001% less for Trump.

Also, I just checked this Wikipedia Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States And based on this list, some small parties actually have some seats and even have some mayors somewhere. So it seems like the vote is not 100% wasted.

Isn't it better for Democracy to look on ALL parties?

The Party in Germany I'm a member of sadly lost their Seat in the European Parliament this election, but this will not be a reason to just give up. Even with only one single seat, the party actually did much Important work. So I will not move to a bigger party now. I will talk to many people and advertise my party and try to get us back on a seat next time.

Like I said, maybe I'm missing something in USA Politics. I don't know much about your system. Could someone explain to me why it's such a hated move to vote a 3rd Party in the USA? From my European viewpoint, I don't see why not. I'm here to understand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Most major progressive policy in the USA originated from third parties, including social security, 8 hour workdays, and women's suffrage.

The major parties became tired of losing close races, so they adopted third party platforms. So no, it's not at all bad to vote third party in the USA, this server is just heavily Democrat.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I don't have the feeling it's just this server. The opinion I also always get on other Social Media is that everyone who votes for a 3rd Party in the USA is seen as an idiot by most people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It's true, the average American voter holds (academically) fringe and heterodox views on America's third party history. The conventional wisdom among historians and political scientists is the opposite:

Let a third party once demonstrate that votes are to be made by adopting a certain demand, then one of the other parties can be trusted to absorb it. Ultimately, if the demand has merit, it will probably be translated into law or practice by the major party that has taken it up…The chronic supporter of third party tickets need not worry, therefore, when he is told, as he surely will be told, that he is “throwing away his vote.” [A] glance through American history would seem to indicate that his kind of vote is after all probably he most powerful vote that has ever been cast.

John D Hicks

The impact of third parties on American politics extends far beyond their capacity to attract votes. Minor parties, historically, have been a source of important policy innovations. Women’s suffrage, the graduated income tax, and the direct election of senators, to name a few, were all issues that third parties espoused first.

Rosenstone, Behr and Lazarus

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's all fine, except when the election is a razors edge from electing Trump. Then you have to put voting third party on a backburner for a later time and vote for the one option you have.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

I won't be supporting the genocide, and anyone who does is subhuman.

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